Talk:It Takes Two (1995 film)

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After editing the infobox to reflect the order of actors as shown on the promotional poster, reverted me with no explanation. I think this issue is a fairly straightforward one, but would welcome input from other editors as to which order is the appropriate one to be used. — Manti  core  14:03, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

WP:OR
has repeatedly added "Many of the plot points are taken from Mark Twain's story 'The Prince and the Pauper'." While this is possibly true, it is original research: we do not have a source for it. Instead, we have an editor who has apparently seen the movie, knows the plot of Twain's book and feels there is a resemblance. Yeah, two lookalike characters switch places and hilarity ensures. While this happens in "It Takes Two" (apparently, as I haven't seen it) and "The Prince and the Pauper", it also happens in the original German novel the first film seems to be based on, other kids' books and films (e.g., "Freaky Friday"), Dickens, Shakespeare, an episode of "The Brady Bunch" and -- probably -- episodes of "The Simpsons", "Futurama" and dozens of others. Why call out the Twain book? - Sum mer PhD v2.0 02:22, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

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Lottie and Lisa
In the past it was mentioned in the article that the movie is based on "Lottie and Lisa" by Erich Kästner, even if it is loosely based on it. References are also in the German, french, russian etc. articles of this movie in Wikipedia. In 2010 someone with an IP claimed to be the writer of the movie and removed the reference with quote: "I wrote "It Takes Two" and I have never read a book called "Lottie and Lisa" so I am quite sure that my film wasn't based on said book. So, I took out the reference." However it is very likely that the person saw "The Parents Trap" and based his story on it and the Parents Trap is actually based on "Lottie and Lisa". So there is a connection between "It Takes Two" and "Lottie and Lisa". Shouldn't it be mentioned in the article? --2003:E4:BF2A:92E3:FD7E:FE10:B666:E353 (talk) 14:47, 13 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I have no clue whether or not that anonymous IP had anything to do with the film or not.


 * That said, if this film is based on another film that is based on a novel, there is a connection, though this film is not necessarily "based on" the novel.


 * To discuss the connection -- whatever that connection may be -- we need an independent reliable source discussing that connection. That wikis in other languages make a connection is immaterial. Wikis are not reliable sources. If, however, those wikis cite sources, you are certainly free to assess whether or not they are reliable sources and, if so, use them directly. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:31, 13 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Many links I found, mostly German links, where the movie ist called "Eins und eins macht vier" (one and one makes four), mostly refer to this movie as "'Das doppelte Lottchen'(the original title of the book) new interpreted", including in this trailer from the Disney Channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Og6LbzYwVo
 * The austrian site Film.AT names it "Das doppelte Lottchen with the Olsen twins": https://www.film.at/eins_und_eins_macht_vier
 * Media critic site Quotenmeter calls it a remake of "Das doppelte Lottchen" (at the day it was broadcasted this year it was better than Doctor Who, according to this article): http://www.quotenmeter.de/n/114865/olsen-twins-stechen-den-doctor-aus
 * Here is a blog about the original novel and its adaptation, it has an interesting list of adaptations of Kästner's novel: https://thenovelee.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-german-novel-that-inspired-disneys.html It says here: "There are 23 total adaptations of Das doppelte Lottchen, including the two Parent Traps, and the very loose adaptation It Takes Two (1995) starring the Olsen twins (for a total of 3 American versions)"
 * German critic Richart Oehmann calls it "Das doppelte Lottchen from Hollywood" and wrote: "Erich Kästner ... surely wouldn't be insulted that he wasn't even credited", criticizing the "social kitsch" of themovie https://www.artechock.de/film/text/kritik/1/1und1.htm
 * And finally an analysis from two twins watching this movie, calling it "Mary-Kate and and Ashley’s knockoff Parent Trap (1961), It Takes Two": https://www.buzzfeed.com/connieesch/twins-rewatch-mary-kate-ashley-it-takes-two
 * Maybe this helps. At least it can be referenced that it is related to at least the movie adapation. --2003:E4:BF2A:9221:8DFE:CAC4:5ACC:627E (talk) 16:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Since there are no objections, this will be added. Hope it is OK. Thank you. 2003:E4:BF19:1587:D4A1:F7C1:95A8:8BF5 (talk) 23:48, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

The Prince and the Pauper (1881) is based on Lottie and Lisa (1949)???
How? That doesn’t make any sense, chronologically. I could see “is the basis for,” but that would have to be supported by citations that I don’t have.

I see there’s been much deliberation in Talk and in the edits over just what inspired what — Parent Trap, Lottie and Lisa, Prince and the Pauper. In fact, it looks like that sentence originally said “is similar to The Parent Trap, which in turn is based on Lottie and Lisa,” (which makes sense) and somehow it all got jumbled up when someone tried to throw Prince & Pauper into the mix. I don’t want to just nix any reference to Prince & Pauper if that really is a relevant connection, but it shouldn’t read as it currently does. 75.128.112.164 (talk) 05:32, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I've deleted it from the lead section.
 * As similar discussion above already say, if there is a connection, it should be described in the article with a reference to another reliable source that discusses it. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 10:15, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It was mentioned in the discussion above, in various articles shown as source and even almost every Wikipedia article in other languages for this movie references this movie as a loose adaptation of Kästner's novel "Lottie and Lisa", which was the source for "The Parents Trap". It might be that the writer never read the book but chances are high that he saw "The Parents Trap". How else can it be referenced? As a separate segment? Or are the articles not reliable enough? 2003:E4:BF1B:13C0:39D2:C692:8EDA:12C6 (talk) 15:12, 20 July 2024 (UTC)