Talk:Italian battleship Roma (1940)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * Second done, but the first is questionable. I can't think of a satisfactory way to reword it. A little help? :) — Ed   (talk  •  majestic titan)  05:08, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe exploded the magazine of turret #2 or B or whatever the Italians used might work?
 * This is done, also replied on my talk. — Ed   (talk  •  majestic titan)  08:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * B. MoS compliance:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * It's my reference for the list of cruisers there. I may be able to replace that with references to Whitley's Cruisers of World War II... — Ed   (talk  •  majestic titan)  05:08, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As long as it's cited it's OK, I just didn't see a cite the first time around.
 * The flooding caused the inboard propellers to stop for want of electricity This gave me pause; I wasn't aware that Roma was a turbo-electric ship. You might want to detail what happened more precisely to avoid this sort of confusion. After the second Fritz-X hit you said that the magazines were flooding, but they exploded anyway. This seems counter-intuitive. Can you explain it a little better? Parsecboy has a habit of adding a couple of brief paragraphs recapitulating the basic stats of the ship right after the lead. I really like his idea and it might be useful here as well. But that won't affect this GAR if you decide not to do so.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:37, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fixed, but I'm not sure on your second point. G&D say it "probably exploded in the forward engine room, causing additional fires and flooding the magazines for number 2 main-battery turret and the forward 152-mm turret on the port side. The explosion of this bomb caused massive flooding and excessive strain on an already weakened hull girder. The number 2 381-mm turret was blown overboard by the violent explosion of its magazines a few seconds later."
 * Ok, it doesn't entirely make sense, but if that's what your source reads... Maybe the flooding wasn't enough to extinguish any fires, etc.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The flooding caused the inboard propellers to stop for want of electricity This gave me pause; I wasn't aware that Roma was a turbo-electric ship. You might want to detail what happened more precisely to avoid this sort of confusion. After the second Fritz-X hit you said that the magazines were flooding, but they exploded anyway. This seems counter-intuitive. Can you explain it a little better? Parsecboy has a habit of adding a couple of brief paragraphs recapitulating the basic stats of the ship right after the lead. I really like his idea and it might be useful here as well. But that won't affect this GAR if you decide not to do so.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:37, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fixed, but I'm not sure on your second point. G&D say it "probably exploded in the forward engine room, causing additional fires and flooding the magazines for number 2 main-battery turret and the forward 152-mm turret on the port side. The explosion of this bomb caused massive flooding and excessive strain on an already weakened hull girder. The number 2 381-mm turret was blown overboard by the violent explosion of its magazines a few seconds later."
 * Ok, it doesn't entirely make sense, but if that's what your source reads... Maybe the flooding wasn't enough to extinguish any fires, etc.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll try to add those paragraphs sometime, thanks for the thought. Parsec came up with a good idea there. :) — Ed   (talk  •  majestic titan)  16:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
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