Talk:Ithaca College/Archive 1

Neutrality
I feel like certain sections read more like a brochure than a wikipedia article. I think we might need to edit some of the wording and make it more objective.

I agree. Many of the edits have been done anonymously from Ithaca College IP addresses (147.129.*.*). However, IC outsourced its IT department to Apogee Telecom a few years ago, thus any student IPs read as Apogee addresses. Therefore, the edits are being made 1) by someone on a faculty or staff computer at the college who 2) wishes to remain anonymous in their non-objectivity. I challenge him/her/them to register and become non-anonymous, so we can discuss neutrality with him/her/them.

It should be noted that on-campus computers such as in the library and computer labs are not run by Apogee, and therefore these edits could be made by anyone on campus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superflush (talk • contribs) 23:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Those of us at IC would love to make this article both more objective and more extensive, but it is difficult for us to do so without running into conflict of interest issues. As far as I know, the only editing any Ithaca College employees have done with the knowledge of the college was done from this account. All that editing was in an effort to make the page more nuetral and extensive, and I wasn't aware of the conflict of interest issue until Teapotgeorge pointed it out to me (thanks for that!). Any ideas on what the college can do to make the page more nuetral, organized, and extensive if the idea that we do it ourselves is frowned upon? IthacaCollege (talk) 14:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * First, you need register separate accounts as group accounts are not permitted.
 * Second, in cases where editors have a conflict of interest we encourage them to make comments on the Talk page rather than make extensive edits to the article itself. Editing the article isn't necessarily problematic or forbidden but it's often better to err on the side of caution ("avoid even the appearance of impropriety").  --ElKevbo (talk) 15:15, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. I'll rename this account, as I am actually an individual and this isn't a group account. I'd just like the page to be more comprehensive- I have no problem with what is there, but the article as it is doesn't represent the scope of the institution, and it would be great to have it be more comprehensive (and more nuetral, for that matter). Thanks so much! IthacaCollege (talk) 16:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Alumni List
I have created a new page, List of Ithaca College People. On that page, I have put all of the names that were in the "noteable alumni and professors" section of the main Ithaca College page. I have also included the names that were in the Ithaca College alumni category.

There is now a link under the "noteable alumni and professors" heading to the List of Ithaca College People page. I think that the list of names on the main Ithaca College page should be either removed or significantly truncated. Does anyone else have an opinion on this?


 * Good idea creating the separate page! If the article is truncated, I can't think of any good parameters.  I'd say keep the CEOs/Presidents and the like, but i got to 15 and stopped counting.   Therefore, perhaps keep Robert Iger, Rod Serling, and perhaps a couple of the other "Entertainment and Athletics" people that have articles, just to give people a taste.  But I'm alright with removing the list altogether if that is the ultimate decision. Darry2385 02:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Since there have been no objections, I have removed most of the names from the list on this page. I left the names of people from a couple of different fields to give a brief overview.  The full list still appears on the List of Ithaca College People, so no content has been lost. RSRScrooge 20:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think leaving an arbitrary number or set of particular people is reasonable. If a separate people list is maintained at List of Ithaca College People (a good idea), then all that's needed on the main Ithaca College page is the heading Alumni List as it exists now, and a listing of the categories e.g. Government, Business Executives, Media...etc, linked to the separate people page. i.e. no names on the main page, only categories. I have not made the changes. WassamattaU 16:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Road Trip
Is this the college where Josh from the film Road Trip studied? Mountleek (talk) 00:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No, the college in that movie is supposed to spoof Ithaca College and Cornell, but it wasn't filmed at either place. ICLucyG (talk) 15:48, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Edits by at Ithaca College Student
I'm an IC student, planning on making edits to try to make this page more comprehensive and give it more reliable sources. Please take a look at any edits I make so that everyone can make sure they're nuetral, etc. Thank you. ICLucyG (talk) 14:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Is the article B class? Comments?
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Adavis444 (talk) 09:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Textor Ball Photo
I think we should replace the Textor Ball photo, but I'm an IC student and don't want to pick one that's brochure-y. I don't know who chose that sculpture to represent the school... it doesn't, in any form except for the fact that it's weird like all of the students here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.51.70.104 (talk) 00:11, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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