Talk:Ivan Alev

Disruptive POV editing.
''Gurther, Wikipedia is based on sources. You must discus and prove your claims with sources at first. Do not disrupt the article. Moreover do not use misleading edit-summary. Both are forbidden. Thanks.'' Jingiby (talk) 18:50, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Jingiby, please provide English academically approved sources which support the claim that he was Bulgarian. Also do not attempt to WP:GAME the system. Gurther (talk) 18:55, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I am waiting about this interesting Wikipedia policy. May I read it? Jingiby (talk) 19:14, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Jingiby, view WP:WNTRMT Gurther (talk) 19:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Gurther, you need at least to leave a note on the article's talk page describing what you consider unacceptable about this article. The note should address the troubling passages, elements, or phrases specifically enough to encourage constructive discussion that leads to resolution. If you believe that material or a particular viewpoint is missing, then you should try to give examples of published, independent, reliable sources that contain this missing material or point of view. If no, I am going to remove the tag. Jingiby (talk) 06:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Jingiby, i believe my issues are clear, but since you seem to fail at understanding the problem ill give you a short explanation, basically no sources support the claim that he was neither Bulgarian or Macedonian, only BPOV and MPOV sources refer to him as such, i believe listening to one side (the BPOV side) is against Wikipedia guidelines, if you want that tag removed i asvise providing English Academically approved sources which support your theory, if there isn't any then the tag will still stay. Gurther (talk) 10:17, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Gurther, if no sources supporting your claims will be provided, the tag will be removed as a POV-pushing. Jingiby (talk) 12:43, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Jingiby, provide sources for what may i ask? it's not like im trying to push the theory that he was a Macedonian, the reason i added the tag was because you attempted to claim that he was a Bulgarian with no sources, and i checked throught Google books, almost no mentions, as a matter of fact this article is bordering on WP:A7 and might be given a tag for deletion. Gurther (talk) 13:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)