Talk:Ivan R. Gates

New York City
I'd suggest taking that concern up at template talk, but at the moment the documentation supports the previous version. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:10, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. As I stated in my comment, it specifically calls for "city, administrative region, country". You're the one who's ignoring the documentation. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does. "Omit unnecessary or redundant details. For example, it is not necessary to state: New York City, New York, United States when New York City, U.S. conveys essentially the same information more concisely." is a direct quote from the documentation - NYC is specifically called out as an exception to the usual format. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:24, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That guideline is routinely ignored a fair chunk of the time (perhaps because it is iconsistent to not have both in the birth and death places). From List of people from New York City:
 * Including the state: Aaliyah, Bella Abzug, Garnett Adrain
 * Excluding: George Abernethy, Cornelius Rea Agnew, Eva Allen Alberti. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:46, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I have taken your suggestion and started a discussion at Template talk:Infobox person. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)