Talk:J. Cole/Archive 1

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The first artist signed to Roc Nation

The Warm Up mixtape was reviewed by XXL magazine. This should be considered a respectable source. Lunasc (talk) 20:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Lunasc

-Personal life- Googled 'Binta Mustapha' and theres nothing about her, i really don't think she is notable. 58.96.93.233 (talk) 15:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

J. Cole have had multiple cover shoots already in his young career. Appears in XXL Magazine "Top 10 Freshman",. Also in The Source Magazine,, and BRM Magazine --Info gw (talk) 12:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Album title
There's a contradiction in sources with the album title, as discussed at Talk:Cole World. I've restored Cole World as the title and noted the discrepancy. In the interest of consolidation, please put all discussion about the album title on Talk:Cole World. Sorry for leaving naked refs, but I'm tired; I'll flesh out the refs in the morning. —C.Fred (talk) 05:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from POWERx101, 29 July 2010
On June 21, 2010 artist Jermaine Lamarr Cole also known as J.Cole made his first Music video "Who Dat" the video was shot near down town Fayetteville. Because J.Cole is a fayetteville native he wanted to include some of the fayetteville community in his video. The E.E Smith High school band and the cheer phi smooth cheerleaders of Fayetteville State University were ask to be in the video. The band director of E.E.Smith and the director of cheer phi smooth both confirmed that they would be in the video. But According to the principal of the high school and chancellor James A. Anderson of Fayetteville State neither the band or cheer phi smooth requested permission to be the video with J.Cole. According to a letter sent to sudents,faculty and staff from Chancellor Anderson " In the past two days I have received emails from FSU alums and some personal friends who had viewed the video and they were outraged to say the least. While the video has both a clean and a dirty version it is the latter version that is extremely profane, raunchy, racist and sexist. Moreover, this version has become a YouTube sensation in a short period of time (over two and one-half million hits so far). The clean version only has 6000 hits. This video does not put FSU in a positive spotlight. As one alumnus wrote “I am surprised that anyone would allow the FSU brand to sink to such a low level”. The Cheerleaders wore outfits with the word Broncos on them and not FSU, however it is clear that they are FSU Cheerleaders." In reply to chancellor Anderson the advisor over cheer phi smooth and the band director of E.E.Smith claim that they were both mislead by the producer of the video to think that they would only be displayed in the clean version of the song. Even though to the public eye the cheerleaders and the band did the same exact things they would do in a normal game they were both reprehended for not following proper protcol. The overall result of this event caused J.Cole to be banded from perfoming in the UNC system.

POWERx101 (talk) 20:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Give a source for that statement.  Red Flag on  the Right Side  20:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Music Article on Big Smile Magazine feat: J. Cole, titled "The Next Best Thing In Hip-Hop? J. Cole". http://www.bigsmilemagazine.com/review.php?id=1056 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonnyhavoc (talk • contribs) 04:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Jcolefan236, 11 October 2010
Add rappers Wale, Fashawn, Omen, and producer No.ID next to Jay Z as associated acts

Jcolefan236 (talk) 23:20, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

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 * Live Review, Bottom Lounge Chicago on August 6, 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.26.254.224 (talk) 04:47, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Nothing in that review says that he's collaborated with any of those acts on multiple occasions; the associated acts field is not for one-time collaborations. —C.Fred (talk) 14:23, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Blow Up
Where is info about this song? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.59.21.27 (talk) 23:26, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

External links in the EPs section
A number of relatively young accounts keep added external links to howflyhiphop.com for the EPs listed in Cole's discography in this article. Such links aren't standard for these articles. Is there any compelling reason to keep these links? —C.Fred (talk) 20:24, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Longest. Tour. Ever.
"J. Cole began a college tour from March 19, 2007 to April 30, 2010 concluding in New Brunswick, NJ at Rutgers University's annual Rutgersfest."

A three-year long tour, really? The citation following this only contains info about the Wiz Khalifa reference. There is no source for this three-year tour, which I am sure is a typo. Someone who knows the history, please edit this for accuracy.Brakoholic (talk) 12:51, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Faulty dates / time travelling
Biography states J. Cole was taught how to rap at age 20, filled his notebook with raps by age 15, and was posting rap songs on the internet at 17. How does he write a notebook full of rhymes and start posting them online 3 to 5 years before he learned to rap in the first place? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williefreeman (talk • contribs) 10:54, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

TBA collaboration
The prose of the article mentions a collaboration with Kendrick Lamar. However, nowhere is a title mentioned&mdash;or, for that matter, a date.

Standard practice, per WP:HAMMER, is to not list albums in discographies until the title and date is known. The general upshot of this is that anything with a TBA title gets removed from the discography.

Since the title isn't known and the date isn't clearly verifiable, why is this in the discography? —C.Fred (talk) 17:11, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Let me rephrase: since the date fails verification, is there any reason to keep an album in the discography if all we know is it will be released with some title some time after 2013? —C.Fred (talk) 00:58, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Now that I think about it seems fine for removal as it not going to be released for awhile. I had only readded it as the editor who removed it did not give a reason for his removal of the content or leave an edit summary at all. The album needs to be mentioned in the main discography pages for J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar as they talk about it quite a bit, so it is pretty sure to happen.  STATic  message me!  01:21, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Influences
Where it says he was influenced by Canibus and Tupac. Could Nas be mentioned? He talks about in "Let Nas Down" about printing Nas raps out and putting them on his wall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watty95 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Day of birth?
The cited source says he was born January 1985. What source says it was the 28th? —C.Fred (talk) 17:51, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

His new album, "2014 Forest Hills Drive" has a track called January 28th, which he claims was the day he, the God, was born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.177.1.211 (talk) 01:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

YouaintheGod
Black January — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kell De'Aris (talk • contribs) 00:34, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2016
Under extended plays there is a Truly Yours 3. This is not an official Cole release and the one on datpiff is also not official. -Justin Patchus
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Extended plays

 * Any Given Sunday #1 (2011)
 * Any Given Sunday #2 (2011)
 * Truly Yours (2013)
 * Truly Yours 2 (2013) Justin12993 (talk) 23:18, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

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Mother's nationality?
What nationality is his mother's? It only says "white" for her, which is pretty stupid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.221.83.158 (talk) 05:52, 7 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The nationality of J. Cole's mother is native-born US citizen. She is my younger sister. She was stationed in Germany with the US Army when Jermaine was born. Wonderingaloud (talk) 02:38, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * @Wonderingaloud: Does that appear in a published reliable source? Right now the article cites a source that says she's German. —C.Fred (talk) 02:42, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but all content here must be verifiable; that means we can't accept your alleged personal knowledge as fact. Our cited source says his mother is German; we'll need a citation of an equally or more reliable source to change the content here.  General Ization   Talk   02:45, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The article cited is wrong. Just because it was published on the internet doesn't make it true. I have firsthand knowledge about this, as I am Kay Cole's oldest brother. She was born May 1st, 1961 in Detroit Mercy Hospital in Detroit, Michigan. Wonderingaloud (talk) 02:59, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * As we already explained, your first-hand knowledge is not verifiable. I may claim to have first-hand knowledge that Donald Trump is a Russian spy, but you can't verify my supposed knowledge and my belief doesn't permit me to publish the claim in an encyclopedia. To paraphrase, your saying something on a Talk page here also doesn't "make it true".  Click on the highlighted links in the messages above to review our policies here.  General Ization   Talk   03:07, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * This link comes close; it states that Kay Cole is an Army veteran. Presumably that means US Army. However, this source doesn't state her nationality, i.e., where she was born, and German nationals can serve in the US military under certain conditions.  I suggest you keep looking for a reliable, published source for Kay's nationality.   General Ization   Talk   03:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You're already posting unverified information by citing an internet source. Wonderingaloud (talk) 03:21, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm going to suggest one more time that you read our policies here to understand what verifiability and reliable source mean on Wikipedia. These policies are not negotiable, especially in biographies of living persons, where we must be very careful to ensure our content is verifiable. You may also want to read the essay Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth.  General Ization   Talk   03:24, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

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J. Cole - rapper or hip hop artist?
The above. I feel like the term "rapper" used in the lead section unnecessarily narrowly construes J. Cole's work.  smileguy91  talk x my huckleberrying  00:08, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

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KOD Tour
J. Cole announced on July 30, 2018 that he is adding Jaden Smith, EarthGang, and kill Edward to his KOD tour. Amberjj1997 (talk) 03:16, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Amberjj1997

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Personal Life Edit Suggestion
Hurricane Florence hit the J.Cole's home on Forest Hills Drive. Interesting bit of information for this page, 2014 Forest Hills Drive and Neighbors single page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TruuJones (talk • contribs) 03:47, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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Omen as associated act?
Has Omen (rapper) collaborated with J. Cole enough to qualify him as an associated act? —C.Fred (talk) 13:59, 17 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Based on our articles it does not appear so. Omen has not appeared on any of Cole's studio albums or EPs, only on one of his mixtapes. Cole has definitely formed a significant part of Omen's career (I'm sure he has appeared on/produced many of his songs), but I do not think Omen has made a significant impact on Cole's career. If they have toured together more than once or twice I would be open to including him. This is based on the guideline at Template: Infobox musical artist. StaticVapor message me!   21:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

AAs Drake and Kaye Foxx
I added Drake and Kaye Foxx to the associated acts section.
 * Drake they have toured together more than once (full tours that are notable enough to have Wikipedia articles) and have done quite a few surprise appearances at shows together and have multiple songs together including "In the Morning" and "Jodeci Freestyle". XXL Magazine even wrote a whole article about their relationship . So yeah pretty notable.
 * Kaye Foxx needs not much explanation. Foxx has had vocals featured on at least eleven songs on Cole's last three studio albums. Obviously working together a lot and is a significant part of his career. StaticVapor message me!   23:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Album removal
I removed the unsourced "The Fall Off (2019)" from the "Discography" section (definition: a descriptive catalog of musical recordings or body of work) that was apparently added at the beginning of 2019. I ran across this through a review of a draft The Fall Off if anyone is interested in looking at that. There may be suitable content for a "Future album" section. It was also added to the "Studio albums" section of J. Cole discography. Otr500 (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2021
In basketball career section, change where he played basketball at from Sanford high school in Sanford Maine to Terry Sanford high school in Fayetteville North Carolina 165.82.134.171 (talk) 06:19, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2021
Add professional basketball player to the first sentence of his bio. Rumboehe (talk) 20:29, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2021
Associated name - Simba 8.48.254.118 (talk) 22:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2022
change Playing career	2021–present to 2022 Xadefn (talk) 02:33, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2023
Dreamville did not happen in 2019 due to Covid. The first Dreamville occurred in 2022 at Dix Park Raleigh. 2605:A601:A63A:D000:1852:6775:F1D1:FCBF (talk) 02:00, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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German Nationality
In "J. Cole sits down with Bob Myers | Lead by Example" (((164) J. Cole sits down with Bob Myers | Lead by Example - YouTube) J. Cole explains that neither he nor his mother are German. While many people believe that he and his mother are German, he denies this in this conversation from early 2023. Long59 (talk) 15:12, 23 October 2023 (UTC)