Talk:JA Industries

Bias
I'm just wandering if this article is a bit biased towards the company, as the part about the judges decision says about blaming the deep pockets of the company. I'm thinking that this reads like a them being a scapegoat, which is hardly nvop. Hellfire83 09:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm wondering if you have ever researched the case? The gun was found to be defective because of what? When you read the case all the plaintive was able to prove was that the gun was pointed in Brandon's direction and the trigger was pulled. The gun fired and Brandon was hit. How in the world is a gun that fires when the trigger is pulled defective.

In my universe the person who pulls the trigger should be held to account not the company that made the gun.

Because of the laws of incorporation in the United States it was cheaper for Bryco/Jennings to go bankrupt then appeal the B.S. court decision. It was all about money and deep pockets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dean Cascio (talk • contribs) 20:45, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Accidental Discharge
See: "Seven Years Later" by Michael Harkins -- the gun did not discharge because the boy shot Brandon in the face, it discharged accidentally while the boy was attempting to clear the chamber. The manufacturer defect is that the gun requires the safety to be set to the "off" position in order to clear the chamber. In previous products, Bryco guns would jam if the chamber was cleared while the safety was "on", so they rigged the gun to require the safety be off before the chamber could be cleared.

There was at least one other adult, and two other people, present when this happened, it was not done carelessly or from playing around, based on the police interviews / reports. The boy was trying to be responsible, even though he had not received proper firearm training. I believe the article-as-written does not fairly portray the nature of this accident, and makes it sound as if it was merely yet-another-tragedy resulting from poor handling and careless goofing off. Elecmahm (talk) 13:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't change the fact that the pistol was pointed at Brandon and the shooter's finger was on the trigger. Obviously the shooter's fault. Just not in anti-gun California.--Degen Earthfast (talk) 14:42, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Merging with Jimenez Arms
Relative to question of whether to merge this article with Jimenez Arms; what is the legal status of Jimenez Arms? Is it a different legal entity than the former Bryco Arms, or is it considered to be the same company? If it is a different company, and simply bought the assets and intellectual property of Bryco, then perhaps different articles are warranted. On the other hand, if Jimenez is now out of business, because it was not ever a separate legal entity, then I think a merge of the two articles makes sense. Yaf 22:07, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

As it appears that Jimenez Arms was a rather short-lived "do-over" of Bryco Arms", it seems reasonable to merge this article into the Bryco Arms article. If someone feels differently, lets discuss it. Yaf 03:32, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Merger completed between the two articles. Yaf 03:45, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Jimenez is still in the gun business and doing well. They are now located in Henderson Nevada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dean Cascio (talk • contribs) 20:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Needs more years
It's not immediately clear within the first paragraph when this company was opened and when it closed. If you read all the way through the article you'll learn it was shut down as a result of a lawsuit in 2003, but nowhere is the information on when it was started mentioned. Both of these should be in the first sentence in the first paragraph. -- Cyde Weys 02:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Jimenez Arms is still making/selling guns in California as of 3/29/06
They just can not sell/make guns that have a mag capacity over 10 rounds like their JAnine Dean

some changes
I've tried to tweak this based on some feedback we received via email. NPOV is elusive in areas as divisive as this, and I've done the best I can. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 20:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It appears that you have largely addressed the POV tag issues; have removed the tagline for now.  If there are still issues, no doubt someone will tag again.  Thanks!  Yaf 21:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Brandon Maxfield's Age
This article should give more attention to the lawsuit. Brandon was injured when 7 years old, but the lawsuit was filed 9 years later, and Brandon is listed as being 17 in 2004, while attempting to purchase the company to shut it down. Just think that a little more depth is due to the article.

The story about Brandon is here: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/12/eveningnews/main629071.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.168.242.17 (talk) 22:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

2020 Bankruptcy
Kansas City, Missouri is suing Jimenez Arms in 2020 for alleged gun trafficking so Jimenez has filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in February 2020. This does not mean the company will immediately shutdown as Oknazevad states in the editing notes. Comapnaies have been known to continue to operate for a long period after Chapter 7 filings AND these Ring of Fire companies have a history of being transferred to/purchased by others and then renamed.Degen Earthfast (talk) 14:52, 29 November 2020 (UTC)