Talk:Jack Posobiec

Alt-right and alt-lite?
How can this person be labeled as both alt-right and alt-lite? These are different ideologies (even opposing to an extent) that don’t go hand in hand. Torbslifre (talk) 02:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * In theory, if there were equal sources on both sides we could say he was described both ways. But reviewing the sources that doesn't seem to be the case - there's a ton of sourcing for alt-right, and only one source, the ADL, actually says he is alt-lite specifically (the other one had him in a list that lumps alt-right and alt-lite together and didn't specify which he is.) The ADL is an alright source, but not sufficiently strong that we can weigh them equal to so many others by describing him as both in the lead. --Aquillion (talk) 21:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Alt-right descriptor
Almost all of the "Alt right" articles are opinion pieces and not any real affiliation, byt by political pundits. The article accuses him of doing the same thing about politicians but is treated as conspiracy

At least try to pretend these are objective sources and not weird hit pieces used by fact checkers to loosely get their points across. Most of these sources claim he's alt right because they literally just pointed at him and said so. Most of the things that are verifiably said by him are normal right wing talking points. 192.182.187.91 (talk) 23:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * References 3, 4 and 5 are high quality academic sources and 6 and 7 are high quality news sources. These are not opinion pieces. Cullen328 (talk) 23:34, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Plus, Pizzagate is not normal. It is deranged. Cullen328 (talk) 23:35, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I tend to doubt Reagan, the Bushes or even Barry Goldwater would consider what Posobiec says to be "normal right wing talking points," though I am aware fans of Posobiec et al. want to normalize it by gaslighting for lulz. soibangla (talk) 23:40, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * None of these look like opinion pieces to me; and several are high-quality academic sources indicating that this is the main thing he's notable for. It's also something discussed in the body, so it belongs in the lead. --Aquillion (talk) 17:58, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Conspiracy Theorist
Conspiracy theories are not theories if the intelligence proves it to be factual. 2600:6C5D:17F:E8CC:E5ED:65C8:80C1:C5 (talk) 18:24, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Nothing Jack Posobiec says has ever been supported by "intelligence". 177.134.220.205 (talk) 22:17, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Possible connection to End Wokeness Twitter account; not sure if it's WP:BLP or WP:V compliant
I am a new editor and I am not super confident adding this myself. I do think, if this alleged connection to the End Wokeness twitter account can be substantiated, it's WP:Notable and ought to be added, just my two cents. LinuxNCats (talk) 13:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Neither of these sources are WP:RELIABLE --FMSky (talk) 13:27, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand that, I am not arguing for immediate inclusion based on one source, that's arguably opiniated and definitely  original research, I am saying that we should try to either substantiate or disprove this claim, rather than ignore a reasonably popular YouTube channels claim. I'm not at all saying that his video is an acceptable source for an encylopedia. I am saying we should investigate and find an acceptable source that is WP:V to substantiate or contradict the claim.
 * LinuxNCats (talk) 13:34, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

As a disclosure, I do wish to note, I left a message on Marshmellowasediting's talk page as they tried to make this edit before and were reverted due to WP:V. They may be able to contribute to the discussion as well. I have also informed the reverting user. LinuxNCats (talk) 13:26, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If it can be substantiated I believe it'll be notable, but until then Substack, Twitter and YouTube aren't reliable sources - I know you're not arguing this, just to provide the reason in case the user adding reads the discussion. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 19:22, 20 July 2024 (UTC)