Talk:Jack and Jill bathroom

As seen on HGTV
Does the sentence, "Jack and Jill style bathrooms have also been seen in the show House Hunters on HGTV." really contribute to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.209.144.218 (talk) 17:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I have never seen HGTV (in Britain), and I try and avoid programmes like Changing Rooms. If we cannot find a photograph (or a plan) to illustrate the article, then as seen on TV pointers may be useful, but I do have concerns about WP:ADVERT. Tim PF (talk) 23:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Article's previous bias to modern trends
I'm currently looking to buy a house in a new area, and we saw a "For Sale" sign outside an interesting looking house. I found the details on the estate agent's website, and on retrieving the brochure discovered that it is "thought to date originally from the late 18th century and modernised in the early 20th century [...] there are two [...] bedrooms with shared Jack and Jill bathroom".

Knowing that Google and Wikipedia are my friends, I quickly get to this article, but the "bathroom would generally have two wash basins" didn't fit, as this house only appeared to have one there. Checking out the references and TV links, and a bit more on Google, it appears that the web has been swamped by this article and websites selling Jack and Jill bathrooms (eg estate agents, architects, developers, interior designers and reality television show producers).

I have therefore tried rewriting it to fit in other versions of reality, and added bits I did glean (like the locks -- but 'twas an answer on a web forum). I'm sure it could do with lots more, but I'm not sure from where. Tim PF (talk) 00:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Unreliable sources tag
The three existing references are from a reality television show about interior design, an interior designer (or was it an interior design supplier), and a firm of architects (who possibly do some real estate development as well). I don't think these constitute reliable sources (see WP:RELIABLE), and may be contrary to WP:ADVERT.

I cannot find any better sources myself, so rather than just delete those references, I added the tag. Please don't remove the tag from the article without proper discussion here (unless they are deleted as spam, in which case the tag should be replaced by an tag). Tim PF (talk) 00:28, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Variants section
I wrote this with several sub-sections and tags, but I wonder if it might be better to combine them into a single section with a bulletted list, but these are usually deprecated (see WP:EMBED), and I'm personally not keen on prose. If each sub-section could be expanded (as requested), it should be ok as it is. Tim PF (talk) 00:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Merge into "bathroom"?
Having expanded and improved this article, I still wonder if it might be better to merge it as a section into the bathroom article (which I have also been tackling). I think it would be better to get both articles into better shape before positing a formal merge proposal. Tim PF (talk) 01:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Shower Room variant and 3/4 bathroom terminology
I removed the below comment (which I do not defend) from the article as it was really more fit for the discussion page, rather than the article proper.173.11.198.81 (talk) 06:33, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * The appraisal industry no longer uses the term 3/4 bath. It is either a full bath or half bath. What source verifies that "many Jack &Jill bathrooms are actually shower rooms"?

Locking arrangements and building code concerns
The article reads in part: "To give full privacy, both doors require locks on both sides. On entering the bathroom, one should lock the opposite door to prevent entry from the other bedroom. Before leaving, that door should be unlocked and the other door locked from the bedroom side. This will then allow occupants of either bedroom to use the bathroom, but not gain access to the other bedroom."

However, many building codes do NOT allow locking the bathroom door from the bedroom side--because this could inhibit egress from the bathroom. Building codes allow locking from the bathroom side only (preventing access from the bedroom), but someone inside the bathroom must always be able to exit the bathroom, especially during an emergency situation. Being trapped inside the bathroom is not a good thing--should I call for expert attention on this subject? Sleckronmich (talk) 04:34, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Lighting
The current text seems to say that different circuitry is required depending on if the light switches are inside or outside each door. Why should this be the case ? StuRat (talk) 15:08, 14 September 2016 (UTC)