Talk:Jackie Wilson

Cause of heart attack
Unless there's a source that actually links his heart attack to smoking, a statement such as "probably brought on by his cigarette smoking" is unacceptable. There are thousands of other potential triggers for a heart attack, including undiagnosed birth defects and genetics. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 00:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

coma period
I imagine that there are a number of people who would be curious about the coma period, so if there are a few known facts about that period a paragraph would be good. What was the coma like- was he totally comatose for the whole time? What was peoples reaction? Was he in hospital the whole time. What was it like when he died? etc.

IceDragon64 (talk) 00:27, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Cites
Can someone fix fn. 21 and also fn the reference in "Tributes and Legacy." — Preceding unsigned comment added by American In Brazil (talk • contribs) 21:38, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Shaker Heights
Is there really a Shaker Heights section of Detroit, MI? Hmcnally (talk) 12:17, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

The "Black" Elvis ???
The notion of Elvis Presley calling Jackie Wilson the "Black Elvis" is debatable. Wasn't Elvis Presley the "White Jackie"?Ddlee202257 (talk) 01:35, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I agree. This is simply racist. This should be left out. This is just another example of culture and music appropriation. Elvis stole "the Negro sound". That is not debateable. Rock N Roll is the bastard child of that approriation. No Negro artist changed their sound or style after the advent of Rock N Roll. Blues, Jazz, Doo Woop, Swing,, R&B.... We have been respectful of country. This is sad. This is like the King of Swing all over again. Pathetic.. Some "white" people called him that.

Fall
I have a friend who was a fan, who swears that the story at the time was that Jackie stepped off the stage accidentally during his performance. Her understanding was that the fall was the cause of his condition, and his existing health problems contributed to things, but the cause was the fall. Anyone else remember it that way? rags (talk) 22:48, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Overall Tone
When I read this Jackie Wilson article, it is hard to tell he is an artist. The article is a tabloid. There is mishap after mishap; abusive father; 2/3 of the introduction is dedicated to his demise. The paragraphs read "gang", "drop-out", "joins group", "Shit Wilson"...."attacking police officers", "underage drinking". It's fundamentally flawed to rely on information coming from the racially-biased press of the 1950's.

The only artistic thing I can gather from Wilson after reading the article is that of his four octave range and dance moves. I have no clue what songs he wrote, what instruments he played, etc.

The history-of-rock.com link doesn't even have references for its claims. The format is not in line with other artists, but instead relies on media accounts from a press which did not promote black artists.

Elvis has perhaps 5% of his intro dedicated to his demise by an "accidental overdose"; a white wash for drug abuse, with no morbid details about dying on a toilet. No allegations of any kind about abusing Priscilla.

This article is unprofessional. My recommendation is to first establish a template based on other musicians, and have the article revolve around the template not the available "facts".

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Actually a Jewish convert or just stated he was Jewish?
I can't find any evidence online for the statement that Wilson actually converted to Judaism. But... I don't have a copy of the cited source, Thomson Gale's 2007 Contemporary Black Biography: Profiles From the International Black Community. (the article cites p. 165) Can anybody back up that claim?

The Wilson bio Lonely Teardrops basically says he just starting adopting Jewish "mannerisms", wearing a Star of David, and telling people he was Jewish: https://books.google.com/books?id=r14eLMrbHJIC&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=%22jackie+wilson%22+jewish&source=bl&ots=sksEYANPqp&sig=LN0f3bmbep4mBENjV3Y5blAHgrk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjeweLU2OvfAhUBKH0KHQ7YBh4Q6AEwGHoECFkQAQ#v=onepage&q=jewish&f=false

That page does state that Wilson said Sammy Davis Jr helped him to convert. Is that enough evidence?

Also according to that book, his wife said to him once when he objected to sending the children to Catholic school, "You're only Jewish because you wear a star of David around your neck!" David Couch (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect Link
Under Portrayals in the media, the 1999 portrayal by Sananda Maitreya (formerly Terence Trent D'Arby) is incorrectly linking to the song Shake, Rattle and Roll instead of the TV miniseries Shake, Rattle and Roll: An American Love Story. (I would fix it but I've never edited a Wikipedia page... don't want to mess it up.) MarkG1959 (talk) 15:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Jackie Wilson Page - Ghostbusters 2
Did I miss something? Why is "Higher and Higher," as used in the second Ghostbusters movie, not mentioned? Is it mentioned, and I just missed it? Featuring that song opened up knowledge of Jackie Wilson to a whole new generation. 64.222.108.112 (talk) 02:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)