Talk:Jacob Elordi

Early life
I think ot should be specified that the Basque Country is a region of Spain, because many people may think that its an independent country and that is not true. Also, for those who say that this information its redundant, many celebrity pages here in wikipedia (Such as Viggo Mortensen or Scarlette Johansson) include parent’s (and even grandparent’s) hometowns and countries of origin. Why is that information not redundant on those pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.128.235.142 (talk) 15:01, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You've already been answered in the discussion above. OhNo itsJamie Talk 15:07, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Nobody give one reason. People just say no, without a debate. I offer precedents of pages where the same information exist and where the editors allow that information. Why is that information not accepeted on this page? 98.128.235.142 (talk) 15:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No one is interested in continuing this conversation except you. OhNo itsJamie Talk 15:17, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Again, you dont give me any reason. You act in a totalitarian way, without giving an option to debate and much less to consensus. I want to speak with someone impartial. 98.128.235.142 (talk) 15:22, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Glossary: "for no reason" -- for no reason that I agree with or think is reasonable; "option to debate" -- willingness to rehash arguments for as long as it takes until it emerges that I am right; "consensus" -- everybody finally agreeing with me.  signed, Willondon (talk)  16:40, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Let me chime in too... if people want to know about Basque Country, they can click the link. —Joeyconnick (talk) 18:58, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, readers who know about the Basque Country will already be aware of its cohesion as an ethnic population without sovereign status. Readers who don't will (1) carry on, satisfied that it is something they don't need to know right now (especially while reading of Australian Elordi's parents), or (2) click on the link to inform themselves.  signed, Willondon (talk)  19:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes Willondon, Take a good look at the conversations and you Will see that nobody has given any reason for not to put that information. Not one. Information that you can find in more pages, so there is a precedent. You Will tell me what option to debate exists if they dont even answer simple questions? Why is That information valid on other pages of other artists but not on this one? Nobody answers, they only give answers that the topic is closed. 98.128.235.142 (talk) 19:39, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * And again, the answer is click. WHy its not the same in other pages<? 98.128.235.142 (talk) 19:40, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2023
change 2013 to 2023 in CAREER heading, last line. Gotchaagain11 (talk) 05:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Hyphenation Expert (talk) 05:54, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2024
I would like to change the photo a better photo because he’s actually more attractive than the current photo suggests 2601:981:C080:2150:CB1:A560:28F4:5FA7 (talk) 02:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: What image do you have in mind? Keep in mind we have a WP:Image Use Policy and we can't just go grab any picture we like due to copyright laws. Cannolis (talk) 03:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Height
Just wanted to bring this to the talk page to avoid further edit warring. Until we've resolved this, I'll try to hold off on adding anything, but I just wanted to discuss the info regarding his height being notable. Removing the information about him being regarded for his height on the basis that he is notable for his acting is, like I said in my edit summary, a false dilemma—he can be, and is, notable for both. Michael Jackson is notable for his music, but that doesn't negate the fact that his appearance and health are also notable enough for their own article on Wikipedia due to the wide variety of sources that address them in depth.

Conversely, Elordi's height does not, at this point, warrant its own article, but it undeniably has gotten enough coverage to permit, at the very least, inclusion in the article. This Vulture essay from this month is entirely about his height, as is this 2020 article from The Cut. This Vox article about his career in 2023 begins with the sentence, "" and goes on to discuss his height further ("", "", ") Other, more routine coverage of Elordi from Men's Health, People, and PinkNews includes articles also exclusively about the effect his height had on his acting career.

Even if it is not an integral part of his acting career on the surface, the source material makes it clear that his height is an essential part of his public image. Would like to hear what you have to say as well. ben ǝʇᴉɯ 20:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Pinging  ben ǝʇᴉɯ  02:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * If he weren't an actor, he would not have an article for being 6'5". So QED. It's not notable. Just because people have written about it doesn't mean we need to include it, as we are not indiscriminate. The entertainment press can just "oh my gosh **" over his height but guess what? We're not the entertainment press.
 * If he were in a profession where height could make or break your career, then it would likely be relevant. That's why we generally remove height info from actors' pages... unless they modelled, where being tall can be considered in most cases a requirement to progress. Even then... likely not required for a general audience to understand the article's subject. —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I am still unclear as to how the sources I referenced fail to establish the notability of his height. You have yet to say anything about them and that was mainly what I was hoping to hear about.


 * I'm also not sure I agree with you here. Your determination that he is not is subjective, especially since the aforementioned sources are exclusively about how Elordi's height is unique in Hollywood, like the Vulture article, which contains the quote, "Still, some of those same insiders told me that in certain cases an actor's height can remain a deal-breaker."  is not an enshrined policy nor is it all-encompassing since plenty of articles about actors do include their heights when they are described by RSs as notable (i.e., Kristin Chenoweth, James Cromwell, Richard Moll) as is the case here. Saying that height is not notable for actors  is not only untrue as per the previously linked actor BLPs and the fact that it is not policy but also a moot point anyway, since Elordi did attempt modeling, as is mentioned in his "Early life" section (Dolph Lundgren's exact height is not mentioned in his article, but his being tall is many times, specifically in relation to his attempts at modeling).


 * Moreover, if all we were looking for in a BLP was what was, then the article would stop at the lede. The vast majority of articles about his height do not (as you put it)  and are relatively objective in their coverage of it, and arguing that  negates the fact that the sources relied on throughout the entire article to determine that he is notable are from the entertainment press.  ben ǝʇᴉɯ  10:00, 10 March 2024 (UTC)