Talk:Jacques-Alain Miller

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A highly defficient entry
Miller is a very controversial person, almost as Lacan. He has been often accused of appropriating his father-in-law's writings and making himself the sole authority to interpret and publish them, of aping Lacan's obscure style or even making him more obscure (if such a thing is possible). None of these is mentioned. Why? A Wikipedia entry which ignores the widespread criticism against such a controversial figure gives a highly biased and distorted account, a gross disservice to the community. Elitzur (talk) 04:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear Elitzur, Thank you for your comment. Your protest would be more compelling if you could provide sourced quotes. The article as it currently stands includes a sourced reference to Lacan's attribution of "sole authority" to Miller. This matter was more recently contested in a French law court. The judge ruled in favour of Miller. Regarding "obscurity", Miller's reputation is, on the contrary, one of great clarity. In general, WP profiles of living persons should avoid unsourced attacks on matters of "style". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Refusecollection (talk • contribs) 13:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Honestly, that's absurdly dismissive. Anyone with passing familiarity with Miller's history knows about the controversies which have always surrounding him, his conflicts with other psychoanalysts and academic peers, and disputes about the Seminar series.  The article is a whitewash, and rather than asking an editor to demonstrate that fact, what we need is some informed editing to create a balanced article.KD Tries Again (talk) 22:23, 9 June 2013 (UTC)KD Tries Again


 * If I understood Elitzur correctly, and I'm perfectly willing to be shown that I didn't, he/she was protesting re: "sole authority" and "clarity". The further controversies you mention may well deserve a place here, but until they are specified, it is impossible to say. The article as it currently stands is a product of the work of several editors, myself included. I have no idea who the other authors are and have never had any contact with them. As with any WP article, feel free to add sourced references or dispute the accuracy of the existing items. The ball's in your court. Refusecollection (talk) 23:39, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

just one example
http://www.bellaciao.org/en/spip.php?article22716 Elitzur

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