Talk:Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest

Citizenship
As a citizen of the Republic of Geneva, he could not at the same time hold the Swiss citizenship, unless through being a burgher in some Swiss municipality. But nothing of the kind is found in the Historical Dictionary of Switzerland, which just indicates that he was « de Genève » (from Geneva), and that he was stripped of his citizenship in 1730. On the other hand the same dictionary indicates for the Swiss painter fr: Marc-Louis Arlaud that he was «  de Genève, d’Orbe (1802) » (see ), and this means that he had the citizenship of the Republic of Geneva, and that he became burgher of Orbe in 1802, thus acquiring the Swiss citizenship as well (as Orbe was at the time part of the Canton of Léman which was part of the Helvetic Republic). Besides, the source from the BnF does not mention a Swiss citizenship, it only has an item which reads « Pays: Suisse » (« Country: Switzerland » ). Sapphorain (talk) 11:01, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Exactly - I thought we had sorted this by now. We do not recognize every historical statelet as a nationality, and more than Swiss sources do. Johnbod (talk) 15:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * We ? Is that a plural of majesty? No existing being will disappear by being minimised or despised. And calling a cat a dog won’t make it bark. Sapphorain (talk) 09:17, 25 August 2018 (UTC)