Talk:Jagex/Archive 1

Founding
The Jagex corporate site says that Jagex was founded in December 2001, but according to archive.org, records show entries dating back to November 1999. Also, I don't think that Constant Tedder was in Jagex at the time. (Ian Gower and Rob Law were also prominent staff members since the development of RuneScape, I think). --Ixfd64 04:05, 2004 Aug 14 (UTC)

Archive Idea
Would anyone have an objection to me archiving this page and replacing it with a summary of the discussions / concensus that has been reached? Currently this page is made up of dead threads from a couple of years ago so I was thinking that a cleanout could do it some good.

Any for or against please post up

cheersFlashNerdX (talk) 18:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Protection
I've protected this article since it's been vandalized from people anons coming from Articles for deletion/Sythe.org most likely. I must say though, the name of this company sounds like some medication being marketed from that old military lawyer show on CBS. Karmafist 23:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Game descriptions
Would some short info on what the games all are be useful? OneWeirdDude 18:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I think it could be usefull, the games are not large enough to deserve their own pages, so info about them should go here, IMHO - Redmess 15:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup?
I've removed this tag as this article seems good quality now and I could not find any specific errors and there was no mention of it on the talk page. SandBoxer 22:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Wrong Info
The info you guys got seems wrong in one place. Jagex's Corporate Site says that over 5000 subscribed in the first week, not 100. Just though I'd let everyone know before I changed it. Richard x 23:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

There is more wrong info in the current amount of players for RuneScape, but I mentioned it already on the talkpage of RuneScape. - Redmess 15:31, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Andrew Gower
Why does 'Andrew Gower' redirect here? There should be more information about Andrew, he deserves an article of his own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.183.157 (talk • contribs)

I agree totally... I will research some info and hopefully make that page. --MasterEagle 05:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I made a page on Andrew Gower with a lot of information about him before he made Jagex. Go check it. :) ~ rih29 21:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

JAGeX
I find that a lot of times, Jagex is not spelled "Jagex", but instead is spelled JAGeX. It also appears like this in the picture.--Death motor 20:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I suggest we keep the official spelling, and change the unofficial spelling accordingly. - Redmess 15:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

It is JaGeX, standing for Java Gaming Experts.

The name is an acronym, thus should it not be named JAGeX? Various other acronymned pages have capital letters, take for example ROM. Floating Banana 06:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, their logo is JaGEx (or JAGex, or whatever), but they themselves call themselves Jagex, if you look at some stuff of theirs, they call themselves Jagex. Runescape Wiki also says this, and I checked after they told me that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.26.233 (talk) 01:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Nowadays Jagex pretty much always refers to themselves as Jagex, but this hasn't always been the case. RuneScape Classic used to and still does say "Created by JAGeX - visit www.jagex.com". --RS Ren ([[User talk:RS Ren|talk] 16:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Euros?
At the bottem of the article there is a note saying that it costs 3.20 Euros ($5.00 USD) to become a member... This must be false because JAGeX dosn't do runescape in Europe apart from the UK and we use pounds... Also 1 Euro roughly equils 1 USD

i woudn't kno anything about pounds, euros x-cept USD. it does cost 5.00 USD 2 become a member --jesusfreek2 05:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


 * What do you mean they "don't do RuneScape in Europe"? I live in Canada, and I can play the game fine and pay for membership in my own currency through PayByCash's affiliation with Jagex.  Also, I quickly ran a currency exchange check on $5 USD, and it returned to be €3.92, so it's not that close to roughly being a 1:1 ratio. Agentscott00(talk) 02:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * ...And me living in Norway, I also pay just fine in Norwegian Kroner. However, the amount varies as the currencies do. Every month the amount of NOK I pay equals 5 USD. Clq 05:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I paid only $4.00 to be a member on Funorb (A Jagex game site), I actually paid about 8 dollars to be a member of Funorb for 2 months. Kagemaru the Ninja of the Shadows (talk) 14:47, 21 October 2008 (UTC)--Kagemaru the Ninja of the Shadows (talk) 14:47, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Holiday Events
There is no information describing previous holiday events, which should be added in —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.251.52.93 (talk • contribs).


 * Keep in mind this article is about the company behind RuneScape, not the game itself. For ingame content, see the RuneScape article and its other subarticles.  They will have what you're looking for. Agentscott00(talk) 02:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Image of the Jagex team?
Where's the image? There's just a broken link there, but I remember seeing a fairly good image earlier. Did it get deleted or something? Anyway, we should either fix the link, get a new image, or delete the broken link, caption, and box it's in. Pyrospirit Talk  Contribs 15:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah I'm pretty angry, I uploaded it and now its not in the Wiki Commons anymore... worst of all, I have no idea why.--Surfaced 05:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Apparently, there's a "free replacement available". Bull, if you ask me.  The company has *no* other pictures available, and those that they have are not publicly accessible.  I'll re-add it with a better fair-use message.  AScott00  22:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Criticism
Should this article include criticism of JAGeX? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.197.170.118 (talk) 05:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC).
 * So long as its published information and notable, then sure. --Notmyhandle 06:55, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed, however the truthscape source being used for one of them is very WP:SPS FlashNerdX (talk) 20:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Date?
If memory recalls, Jagex has been around since 1999. At the bottom of the RuneScape main page, it says "1999-2007". I also remember it being around then. I'm going to change the founding to 1999. ~ rih29 23:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Rih, please read the reference before changing factual information. It was founded in 2001 but started unofficially in 1999 when Andrew began development.  Please change it back. --Notmyhandle 04:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I changed it, (I don't know why you couldn't change it, but still) but I still think it should be 1999. Since that when it DID begin. In I'm going to add that it was unofficially founded at that date. ~ rih29 21:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Jagex is a seperate entity from its creators - just because development started in 1999, doesn't mean that's when it was founded. Look at the source for the date. Jagex copyrights date to earlier because Andrew transferred the copyrights to his earlier work to Jagex. Comrade Tux 21:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * But Jagex existed in 1999. This deserves some type of mention in the article. ~ rih29 10:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If you can find a source for that, go ahead and add it. Comrade Tux 17:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Changing back. Comrade Tux 18:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The source is at the bottom of the freakin' Jagex website. 1999 - 2007. Adding it again. ~ rih29 21:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The copyright date indicates the date that (some of) the material was copyrighted at, not the date the company was founded at. However, we could put that in the article - just say that "development started in 1999" instead of that the company was unofficially founded in 1999. I just don't like the whole "founded" bit, because the objectives of Andrew and Paul in 1999 (making a game on the side as freelance programmers) and Jagex today (running RS as a commercial operation) are quite different. Comrade Tux 04:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's been a week and some, so I'm going to put in the started development bit. C  omrade   T  ux  05:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The domain Jagex.com was registered on the 18th of September 1999. The earliest archive I can find is from the 29th of November 1999 and it describes Jagex Software as "a small software company based in England". The earliest reference to Jagex on usenet I can find was by Andrew Gower on the 21st of October 1999. --Joshtek 16:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought Companies House would be a reliable and veribiable source of information so checked their website. Business 03982706 was incorporated on 2000-04-28 as MEAUJO (492) LIMITED and changed their name to JAGEX LIMITED on 2000-06-27. Their Company Type is described as a Private Limited Company with their Nature of Business listed as ''7220 - Software consultancy & supply'. --Joshtek 16:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * On the runescape website it has the year 1999-2008 clearly at the bottom. Therefore, it should be put s 1999-2008, not 2001-2008.

Cheers, --Royalmate1 (talk) 02:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Player and revenue numbers
Some new player and revenue numbers were put up. The sources haven't changed to support them, though. Where are they from? Can't find anything supporting them on the Jagex site, for one. C omrade   T  ux  19:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

What is Jagex's email address?

 * However, with a bit of looking around you can find quite a lot of information about them, including their London office address (Suite 105, 300 Kensal Road, W10 5BE), Cambridge office address (St Andrews House, 90 St. Andrew's Road, CB4 1DL) and the London telephone number (020 8960 6500)this is all from the RIPE data, so is freely available out there...it includes some email addresses too 87.194.44.145 (talk) 12:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Tarheels54 runescape player

Beyond RuneScape
In the part of the article dubbed "Beyond Runescape," I noticed that it is mentioned twice that certain games can be played Jagex's website. I don't know exactly how to fix it, so if anybody can, please do so. -A guy who isn't a member of this place and lives in VA


 * Just click the edit button and make any changes you feel improve the article. Just make sure that it follows our basic five pillars for articles, which are the most basic principles to follow on Wikipedia. Since you've brought this to my attention, though, I'll take a look at it myself. And if you want to become a "member" here, just create an account! Pyro  spirit   Shiny!  14:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Tarheels54 offical rs player edited

MechScape?
It seems that Jagex have registered the name "Mechscape," and taken to taking up all the names of websites that go with it, i.e, Mechhq.com, Mechgold.com etc. Doest this mean that they are planning a new game beyond RuneScape? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.121.222 (talk) 08:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * MechScape Central seems to think so. We're also working on MechScape but it has a fair amount of work to be done on it.--RS Ren 11:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The article on Jagex's MechScape has been nominated for deletion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/MechScape --RS Ren 10:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

vandalism?
opened jagex and it was blank, lil' shocked at this so i rewrote it to the first unvandaled version.

guy by the ip adress of 72.204.208.108 wrote some nasty stuff and then subsequently blanked the page.

i dont write much, but will there be reprecussions for this guy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devel31 (talk • contribs)


 * Thanks for fixing that, I've warned the person responsible. Yes, the vandal hordes seem to be hitting these articles particularly hard lately. It's getting a little tiresome, to be honest. Probably someone has posted "hEY letz go vandlase wikipedia runescape articles LOLOLOLOL!!!!11one!1" on some forum somewhere. I still don't understand why a computer game is targeted so much. It's about as apolitical as you can get. Sign your posts! CaptainVindaloo t c e 15:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

It's the recent update that has gotten people vandalizing this page -   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.109.200.69 (talk) 02:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Information code 2.4.5485.65

Tarheels54 Runescape player —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.234.78 (talk) 12:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

MechScape World
This fansite shouldn't be used as a source, there's nothing reliable about it, and their about page makes it abundantly clear that they are out to cash-in from the word go. Though probably inserted by an editor in good faith, their continual presence on WP in one form or another smacks of spam, once they get their foot in the door they're going to expect a free lunch (perhaps even singing vikings). The 3 fansites agreed upon for the RuneScape article is kept stable, but sends out a message that wikipedia is a cash cow of potential users. I'm not suggesting that the RS links should be changed but editors should be aware that MechScape is already targeted as the future battleground where fansites will be vying for coverage, the thing doesn't even exist yet in any practical terms. What I'd strongly suggest is that the site be removed, period, since it's neither reliable for a source or needed for speculation, if and when MechScape appears there will be reliable sources to cover it on WP, if it doesn't the info would have to be removed as speculation anyway. If and when there is a MechScape article it should be linked to the Open Directory Project, readers can find what they need from that. Someoneanother 23:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason MechScape World was added as a reference is because it listed the domain names referred to in the article and is the original source. While the domain name registrations can be easily verified, it can only be done so if you actually know some of the domain names in question. However, the Wikipedia article doesn't list the domain names and so without such a reference the statement couldn't be made. MechScape World is reliable in the sense that it provides verifiable sources for virtually all of its claims. It isn't for me to decide whether it should feature on Wikipedia, but it isn't just some random fansite - it is the oldest and most authoritative MechScape fansite. --RS Ren (talk) 02:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It isn't a reliable source in WP's standards so it shouldn't be there, the information contained is extremely minor in the grand scheme and will have little to no impact on the MechScape article should the game be released. Despite being up front about your involvement on your user-page, placing it here is a conflict of interest, we shouldn't be discussing the validity of your own research or website. If details of something have to be published on a fansite just to make them available then it's either non-notable (not the case) or too early for wikipedia to be covering it (the case). When some concrete details come from Jagex or a news source MechScape can be dealt with. Someoneanother 20:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, from a wikicentric worldview much of the MechScape research is currently WP:Synth with a dashing of unverifiable and crystal ball. While many sources can be verified, deriving any significance or meaning from these sources individually and collectively is beyond the role of Wikipedia. --RS Ren (talk) 00:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I don't see why everyone is so restrictive when adding fansites. It's not like it's causing Wikipedia to lose traffic, all links have the rel='nofollow' tag after all... RuneScapez (talk) 19:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not MechScape World that we're using as a source; MechScape World shows verified sources such as domain names and trademarks as evidence for MechScape. MechScape World should be listed because it is the source and can be trusted because it gives sources.

68.158.96.104 (talk) 20:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Mechscape
Should we remove it for now, its got 2 sources and theres nothing that speceficly states they are working on it.--Jakezing (talk) 02:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I say we should improve it instead, but we have to be careful of WP:Synth and WP:NOR.
 * It is indisputable that:
 * Jagex have trademarks for the term MechScape, including a logo.
 * There are many MechScape-related domain names which list Jagex as their owner.
 * MechScape is listed in the RuneScape website's global Cascading Style Sheets.
 * It is separately indisputable (as in to put 1 and 1 together is WP:Synth) that:
 * Jagex have been hiring for people to work on an MMORPG besides RuneScape for some time now, and in their job vacancies say they desire someone with a general sci-fi interest.
 * Sourced but potentially controversial are statements of former Jagex employees about their jobs working on a futuristic/sci-fi project and their concept art which is believed to be for MechScape but it isn't stated whether it is or not. Similarly, statements from people who claim to know Jagex employees who they claim told them about the existence of MechScape are unverifiable.--RS Ren (talk) 15:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * press coverage for mechscape: http://www.massively.com/2008/07/15/jagex-teases-sci-fi-successor-to-runescape-mechscape/. Should the article be amended? Primadog (talk) 09:58, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've source the Massively article in the "Future Development" section, but it is a bit disjointed so feel free to improve it so long as you keep the sources. We finally got our confirmation that their "new MMO" is MechScape which is what we knew all along but had to see in writing. --RS Ren (talk) 21:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Jagex in the media
See Talk:RuneScape for various articles in the press relating to Jagex and its creations. --RS Ren (talk) 17:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Funorb
Jagex has really been spending a lot of resources on funorb but, I see no mention of it here. Perhaps there should be a section for Funorb? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.76.30.175 (talk) 22:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nearly every section in this article (introduction, history, future development, operation - but not reception) mentions FunOrb. Neither RuneScape nor FunOrb have their own section here, instead they have their own article and are mentioned where appropriate. --RS Ren (talk) 08:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Noteworthy: Scam advertisement at bottom, removal?
Apparently some one has put some scam advertisement at the bottom of the article. I'm just a new user (as I noticed this just a moment ago), so haven't got the rights to remove this. It's past External Links.


 * Someone vandalized Template:Jagex, which is included in this article. It's been fixed now. If the vandalized version is still appearing, try bypassing your browser cache. Thanks for pointing it out. Pyrospirit  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 17:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

FunOrb article up for deletion
The AfD entry is at Articles_for_deletion/FunOrb --RS Ren (talk) 19:57, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

incorrect info
jagex have already released the runescape graphical update (07/01/2008

keeping with tradition they still remain on a java based engine

how it works
The point of the game is to do quests,minigames, grow your skill levels,getting money,buying things,and fighting.Jagex lets you use your username and password on their site called funorb.

Your point is?--Megaman en m (talk) 14:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Jagex Meaning?
I see that the meaning of Jagex was recently added to the page. Can this be cited anywhere? techietim (talk) 17:50, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've fixed the citation - the meaning is stated in the opening paragraph, so it doesn't need its own section. --RS Ren (talk) 00:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit Needed in the 'Operation' Section
editsemiprotected One of the most recent additions to the servers was the addition of the three German beta servers, which are currently the only servers for a non-English version of the game. Jagex is to release French servers as said in the "Behind the Scenes" for December 2008.
 * ✅ - rephrased and info added, including a source of where you got the information. ~ mazca  t 20:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Add the Twitter & Feedburner?
Not sure about this one so asking an opinion - looks like Jagex have started a Twitter account (https://twitter.com/OfficialJagex) and they have set it up on Feedburner (http://feeds.feedburner.com/Twitter/Officialjagex). This is rather unprecidented for them so could be of note, however I didn't know if that would count as going against WP:NOTLINK as it's a fairly common practice for everyone else. Any thoughts?FlashNerdX (talk) 21:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * wait to see if it is them before putting links to them. Ive seen simmilar things apeare before and it was someone harvesting passwords, so we should moniter for now. r d u n n  10:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * its official on RSOF —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlashNerdX (talk • contribs) 14:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * No objections against & proven legit so added it in FlashNerdX (talk) 17:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Jagex
I noticed that it said: The Jagex name and logo was originally used by Jagex founder Andrew Gower for his Java/JAGeX Audio+Graphics Extension.' Jagex actually stands for Java Game Experts. This is stated on their main website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rune Demon (talk • contribs)
 * There is a difference between what the Jagex in Jagex Ltd officially stands for and its origins. Think of PHP which derives from "Personal Home Page" but officially stands for "PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor".--RS Ren (talk) 22:20, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Operation, Second Paragraph
It doesn't read correctly, ''They maintain about 160 servers for RuneScape in various locations around the United States, Canada, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Mexico, Brazil, Norway. Republic of Ireland, Belgium, Denmark, New Zealand and the United Kingdom,''

It should be something like ''They maintain about 160 servers for RuneScape in various locations around the world, which includes United States, Canada, Australia, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Mexico, Brazil, Norway. Republic of Ireland, Belgium, Denmark, New Zealand and the United Kingdom.

I would've edited it but it's semi protected ;o 78.151.78.156 (talk) 11:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

New CEO
http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1648... Misortie (talk) 19:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ Now taken into account. I've also made some smaller changes across the article (italicizing RuneScape and FunOrb for consistency, and a few typo fixes). 1ForTheMoney (talk) 20:28, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Outdated...
Seeing as this article is terribly outdated, you really should unprotect it somewhat so it can be cleaned up ;) 9fm (talk)

Seriously... anytime 9fm (talk) 01:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It's protected due to people vandalising it lots when not protected. If we open it it'll just result in cleaning up the page again and again and again. Sorry :-(FlashNerdX (talk) 17:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

A new site
Hey, Jagex has officially created two Facebook groups (Funorb Games and RuneScape). The Funorb one is in a new feed on the Funorb site. The RuneScape one is favorited on Funorb Games. Adding the direct links to these to Facebook groups would be helpful. (Also note Jagex has either an Ebay or Amazon (forgot which) account where they are auctioning off RS books and membership. If someone wanted to research this and add the link that would be great). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.147.227.185 (talk) 22:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * As they are for specific products might it not be better to add them to the products page? also the links are http://www.facebook.com/pages/FunOrb-Games/97187290522 & http://www.facebook.com/pages/RuneScape/59261801728FlashNerdX (talk) 14:20, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would advise discussing each link at their respective talk pages, here and here. Whether they'll be added is another matter, though. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 19:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Assessment
I've gone and given it a C, like requested. However, I think the lead should be expanded to include the company's history. However, I don't think the importance should be mid, because this company has so far only contributed to one popular game and a website. Even HAL Laboratories is only mid-class. --haha169 (talk) 05:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. There is some information about Jagex's history in the RuneScape article - if it's relevant I, or somebody else, can bring it over here. Now onwards to B-Class, I guess. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 10:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There is already some history in this article, and that could be used to write a short summary to be placed in the lead. --haha169 (talk) 05:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Update:Well, I had a go with trying to construct some sort of lead. Plus some smaller changes that the article could do with. I've always considered this article to be more the domain of User:FlashNerdX; I normally stick to other Jagex-related articles. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 23:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I have a domain?!? Gosh :-) I will do the best I canFlashNerdX (talk) 14:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, this article isn't exactly my expertise. I know lots about RuneScape and FunOrb, but not the company that made it. So...1ForTheMoney (talk) 17:04, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

New Motto / Meaning Of Name
According to their corporate site and latest press release Jagex now stands for "Just About the Gaming EXperience", will start changing to reflect it. Should the old names be added into the history?Wolhound (talk) 12:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That's a good question. For now, since we're not writing the complete company history, I guess the names can be left out. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 13:06, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Jagex Games Studio
Jaged are now no longer known as Jagex Ltd. All of their websites (Jagex.com, RuneScape.com, FunOrb.com, and even Twitter.com/OfficialJagex) refer to them as Jagex Games Studio, and their logos and documentation reflect this. As such, could somebody please make the according changes to this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.32.16.18 (talk) 10:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅, although the article will still refer to the company as Jagex wherever it appears. It isn't worth changing every single instance in the article. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 10:51, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Geoff Iddison
I notice that Geoff Iddison redirects here, which I guess is because he's not considered noteworthy enough to have his own article right now. Although he has worked with other well-known organisations (including PayPal), his name is probably best known amongst the mainstream community for his involvement with Jagex, so I think it is a fair redirect. However, people here may be interested to know that he does have his own article at the RuneScape wiki. I have not added the Jagex article under external links here, but interested visitors may also find it useful. :-) leevclarke (talk) 16:53, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

MechScape/Stellar Dawn
There have been a few official statement by Jagex as to the state of their second MMO. It's pretty sad that all this article talks about is how it it set to be released in early 2009. Those looking for information should take a gander at MechScape World, a recognized fansite, on which Jagex moderators have discussed the news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.133.129.157 (talk) 03:32, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * We did have an article on MechScape, but when it was apparently cancelled the article's creator requested its deletion. Until something solid comes up, more information might be seen as speculation. 1ForTheMoney (talk)

Irrelevant info
"A graphical and engine rewrite was completed in 2004, which was named RuneScape 2 in development and is now simply called RuneScape.[11] The original version of RuneScape is now known as RuneScape Classic or RSC. In July 2008 RuneScape was updated to use more textures, thus creating RuneScape HD. Jagex had collected information on users' computer specifications in order to develop RuneScape HD. Runescape was stated to have the largest number of subscribers of all free MMORPGs in the Guinness Book of World Records in 2008.[12]"

Surely this really belongs in the RuneScape article, not the Jagex article. The article should be about Jagex, not bits and bobs from RuneScape.. just really wondering what the rationale was regarding it.. and if it should be removed. Calvin (talk) 15:31, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ummm...I can't find that piece of text anywhere in the article. Perhaps you were looking at a previous version of the article? 1ForTheMoney (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * They probably removed it and just used this post in the discussion page since what they had to say wouldn't fit in the edit summary; I know I've had to do that before. And I agree, the article on a developer should contain information about the corporation rather than about their first commercially successful product. 98.27.162.44 (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

POV Dispute
"...as Jagex's popularity grew..."

That term is very POV in my opinion, it should be changed to "influence", or "profile" or something simmilar. Mod MMG (User Page) Reply on my talkpage. Do NOT click this link 07:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ Since I've got a moment, I've changed the offending sentence to "As RuneScape gained more users, Jagex grew its employee base." Not perfect, but these phrases are more factual and verifiable. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 21:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Games Domain
Does anyone happen to remember gamesdomain.com (before it was acquired by Yahoo) and their "castle" of games that were coded with Jagex? ... it's how I happened to stumble upon/recall the name... ) --- AHEM: --- http://jagex.wikia.com/wiki/Games_Domain_Castle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.219.133.89 (talk) 05:15, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Is this related to the article? If not, it shouldn't be here. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 07:28, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Improvements (hopefully)
I've organized the article a bit by adding several more subsections. I've also checked the references, which should hopefully now be more up-to-date. Please let me know if I've done anything incorrectly. Pliigi (talk) 12:47, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing that some editing won't fix, since the article was in real need of reorganising. There are some very general points to make, and they're mostly nitpicks rather than massive errors.


 * The "See Also" section should only have links which don't appear in the article but are related, and they should also use bullet points rather than line breaks (which I hate seeing outside of infoboxes). At the moment, all of the links it contains are in the article, so for the moment I'll probably take that out.
 * Words like RuneScape and FunOrb should be in italics whenever they are used in the article.
 * Internal links don't need underscores. Underscores_in_internal_links_are_bad.
 * References come after punctuation, and in a few cases you've used the same reference more than once. It's more efficient to do this using named references and saves needless typing. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 13:39, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Key People
I put an updated version of the 'Key People' listing, based on the Jagex credits page. It covers the 4 "chief's" mentioned there, along with Andrew Gower as he's listed as "Principal Architect"/is the guy that started the company. Pliigi put in a version that took out 3 of the people from that list and included a lot of other names along with people from the original list. Template:Infobox_company suggests "Up to four key individuals closely associated with the company... Generally list prominent, current executives within the company holding key positions such as Chairman of the Board of Directors, the Chief Executive Officer, President, Head of Design, etc." which covers my edit but it also says "For existing companies, it may be appropriate to list past executives who played an especially prominent role in the company's history." which covers some of the names mentioned by Pliigi (so we're both right, yeah!). To try and gel these two together I'm thinking that we put current members of staff into the infobox and put past members into the history section, however to know which of the ones listed count as high enough we need some references on them to weigh them up. Sound a plan or should we stick with the latest edit/work on a third way?FlashNerdX (talk) 16:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Jagex's credit list is a good start (it's already used under reference 12.) The first 5 names in the infobox are good, but I've never heard of the others - ideally only people who played a really noteworthy role and made a big impact on the company as a whole should be included. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 17:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No objections posted so reverting back to the list mentioned above FlashNerdX (talk) 16:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that 1ForTheMoney raised objections. I agree. Key people shouldn't be based entirely on their position within the company when barely anyone has ever heard of them and their contribution to the overall company is negligible. Pliigi (talk) 00:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * My objection was more about having lots of names, rather than which names to include. I'm not best qualified to decide who should and shouldn't be on the list, but I think those that receive plenty of coverage should be included - Andrew Gower and Mark Gerhard, for example. Other individuals will have to be decided case-by-case. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 00:22, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Task forces
In what event can a Jagex Task Force be created? -- Σ  talk contribs   03:33, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Basically, they're smaller versions of WikiProjects: a group of editors that choose to collaborate on sub-sets of articles. Of course, for a task force to exist, it must have enough members to maintain activity and be willing to maintain itself - I have no interest in such things. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 10:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Locked
Shouldn't this article be locked? I'm surprised it's not... tons of 12 year olds would be abusing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.114.202.71 (talk) 20:34, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the page history as of today's date; you can see that vandalism is very occasional and quickly reverted. Despite the odd bit of vandalism, it's nothing editors can't handle, so protecting the article would be overkill. (The article on RuneScape, on the other hand, would be a different story...) 1ForTheMoney (talk) 21:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

One of the vandals actually is 12- My little brother. I forgot to log out when I left for a bit. I come back and.... What's this? I have a warning? My little brother has a vendetta against Jagex for some reason. I apologize and will not let this happen again. Nerdablurdaturd (talk) 04:56, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Criticism
I'm surprised that this article doesn't mention any criticisms against the company. Perhaps there should be a criticism section to avoid making this article appear biased? --Zybez (talk) 17:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * "Criticism" is itself a loaded term and is actually discouraged on Wikipedia. Reception sections are used instead to combine positives and negatives, although you still have to be careful not to overload it with positives or negatives. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 19:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Ace of Spades
Someone should write something about Jagex's new game called "Ace of Spades". It was going to start out as a indie game but was sold by Ben Aksoy to Jagex. Also a article for someone who want's do write about it is here although there are many other articles on different sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElFizbanio (talk • contribs) 15:59, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ You should also note this in the game's article. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 18:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Reception
There should be something put in about the reception of Jagex's version of Ace of Spades. All you have to do is take a brief glance at either the official forums on the website, or the official forums on steam to realise a large portion of the community are extremely unhappy with the direction Jagex has taken the game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.50.206 (talk) 10:41, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Forums are not reliable sources, though. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 11:13, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

This may not be the place for this discussion, but how can Wikipedia possibly represent major points of view when you only accept references from those elite enough to be able to publish? Particularly in a case like this where the majority of players are under the age of 16 so unable to publish for various reasons including knowledge, maturity and legal reasons. However, they make up the main player base and the forums are the best and only true representation of the community and reception of the game, which has been extremely negative, rendering this page, and the Ace of Spades page inaccurate and no longer fulfilling the purpose of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.50.206 (talk) 15:58, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That doesn't change their reliability - Wikipedia prefers sources that are long-lasting and have editorial oversight; forums have neither because just about anyone could post, and threads can be hidden or disappear without warning. Now, if a national newspaper or established gaming website (Gamespot, for example) picked up on it then it would be reliable, however Jagex-related topics are often overlooked. Remember the golden rule: verifiability, not truth. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Source 83.
Unreliable? not exactly - but highly inappropriate & undue weight? TOTALLY. This is a poll that gained 250 signatures (For a game that claims millions of players) and cannot even be considered a reliable source. What the hell is this even doing here? And don't get me wrong - I am aware of the negative reaction given to Jagex's recent decisions for the game but this isn't right for Wikipedia. --85.211.117.235 (talk) 16:59, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I had the same thought yesterday. Petitions are inherently unreliable because they push one point of view, and as such the source has been terminated with extreme prejudice. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 17:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)