Talk:Jake Long

Family Info
Given the subjects famous father and mother (is it really teri hatcher?) I think a short family reference section should be added.
 * I think you're probably refering to Chris Long. G LeTourneau (talk) 20:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have added a family section and am going to look for a hatnote to clarify this.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:28, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

NFL
He's the projected #1 pick in the 2008 draft. How can there be nothing about this?

He was drafted first?
Funny; not only does this article give information on events that have not yet happened, it proclaims to be psychic. I'm rewording this thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.11.77 (talk) 08:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Order of Angell
I don't think Long's membership in a minor student group is notable. Its inclusion here seems like promotion. TheMile (talk) 02:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

"Family"
The section "Family" should be renamed "Personal Life" and moved after the "Professional Career" section like many other NFL players bios. --Octa62 (talk) 05:36, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

All-Rookie Source
The infobox says he was named to the PFW All-Rookie team with a link to Pro Football Weekly, but the article has a source saying he was named to the Pro Football Writers Association All-Rookie team. Is this a contradiction or was he named to both?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

3rd tackle to be 1st overral pick
According to espn: The only other offensive lineman taken with the No. 1 choice since 1970 was Ohio State tackle Orlando Pace. The list of first overall picks in the NFL only mentions another offensive tackle selected 1st overall, Ron Yary in 1968, and a couple of Centers before that. --Octa62 (talk) 16:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Fireworks
Saying the fire was started by fireworks on that landed on the porch leaves the reader wondering why they landed on the couch and what was going on to have fireworks in the neighborhood on a random night. Please do not remove the reference to the Pistons celebration.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The information is unnecessary and makes the section read more cluttered. Please do not readd the reference to the Pistons celebration. There is no reason to fight on such a minor point when I am trying to improve this article. JimmyBallgame 18:44, 24 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyBallgame (talk • contribs)
 * You are not improving the article by removing explanatory content that should be WP:PRESERVED. Couches don't normally just catch fire.  There needs to be an explanation on why people were doing things that could lead to a couch catching fire. I am going to replace this content and then ask for people at WP:NFL and WP:CFB to comment.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the current two sentance explanation is succinct and adds enough value to the article that it should remain. cmadler (talk) 11:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I came to this discussion from WP:CFB, and I agree that TonyTheTiger's edits should remain in the article for historical context. A couple of comments:
 * JimmyBallgame writes, There is no reason to fight on such a minor point when I am trying to improve this article.
 * People often work very hard on Wikipedia articles for the sake of public interest, so it's entirely reasonable to fight for a proper encyclopedia article on a given subject.
 * Your statement "when I am trying to improve this article" implies either that you do not WP:AGF from TonyTheTiger or that you are trying to WP:OWN. Please keep in mind procedural WP policies when discussing the article in question.
 * Arguing that something is "clutter" isn't a very strong post hoc justification for removing content. Typically, you are going to want a stronger claim that the addition lacks verification, neutrality; that it constitutes vandalism or original research; that there is incorrect grammar or spelling, etc.. Obamafan70 (talk) 15:52, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you here. The information is not central to the article and it should not remain. There really is no reason to need to know that the Detroit Pistons had just won the NBA title. I'm guessing you are a Pistons fan Tony? And you want this "plug" for your team to be in the article...I don't know why else you would fight such a minor edit, when it is clear that my edit improves the article. To my knowledge, I have kept all procedural guidelines in mind in my edits here. I have made a good faith edit and for whatever reason TtT doesn't like my change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyBallgame (talk • contribs) 14:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Knicks fan. You are the only one who seems to think the content should be removed.  Why would you come to the talk page read that three people disagree and then go back and revert the content.  Please WP:PRESERVE the content for the reasons above.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:03, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

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