Talk:Jakov of Kamena Reka

На въпроса, идентични ли са Яков от Камена река и Яков от София, продължават да се дават противоречиви отговори
The discussion about this article was held on the talkpage of one editor (link). Since this discussion affected the content of this article, it is good to have a note about it here.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:01, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


 * The text says: However some researchers maintain that Jakov of Sofia and Jakov of Kamena Reka are different historical persons. Jingiby (talk) 15:03, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I did not complain about the text. Like I explained above, I just felt that a note with link to this discussion should be placed here because this page was the right place to discuss the text of the article. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Hercegovina
This view is outdated in any case. All sources I have found, which support it are from the 19th. or from the first half of the 20th. century. There is only one, that is nearly 50 years old. Jingiby (talk) 15:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Per WP:INTEGRITY, "if a sentence or paragraph is footnoted with a source, adding material to that sentence which is not supported by the source is highly misleading. So when new text is inserted into a paragraph, make sure it is clear which facts the inline citations support". If there are sources that this assertion is fringe or outdated then add it as separate assertion. Don't change referenced assertion.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:11, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * If I see it was an early Serbian misinterpretation of Kolašin in today Montenegro in wider Herzegovinan area with Kolasia, or Kyustendil in today Bulgaria, in a wider Macedonian area: „Kolasijski grad" hat nichts mit Kolasin in Montenegro zu tun, Названието Коласия за Кюстендил, което днес се е съхранило в името на кюстендилското предградие Колуша, излиза от официална книжовна употреба едва след западането на Печката патриаршия през 1766 г. Дотогава, както в Яковите книги, то е обичайното название за гр. Кюстендил в цялата южнославянска книжнина.  Jakov claimed: изидохь с Mакедоние отчества моего и вьнидохь у вь западнja странахь, i.e he was not from Herzegovina but from Macedonia. He also maintained:  родину и отчствомь бехь иже вь подкрули великие гори осоговцеи близь коласискаго града в места нарицаема камена река... That means he originated from  a location in Osogovo called Kamena Reka, near the town of Kolosia, and  Osogovo is too far from Hercegovina. Jingiby (talk) 15:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Flag-waving is completely unnecessary here. Ivan Kukuljević Sakcinski, Svend Dahl and Jugoslavenska akademija znanosti i umjetnosti (L. Hartman in Zagreb 1897) are far from "early Serbian". --Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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