Talk:Jamaat al Muslimeen coup attempt

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What were there goals?
What were Jamaat al Muslimeen planning to do? Did they intend to turn Trinidad and Tobago into a muslim state? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.172.239 (talk) 08:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Given the politics of their leader... yes.65.209.62.115 (talk) 11:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Martial law?
It is probably the case that "A state of emergency was declared by acting president Emmanuel Carter", however was it true that "martial law was imposed"? That would be a quite different matter, and as far as I know the law of Trinidad did not allow for "martial law".203.80.61.102 (talk) 22:34, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

CIA/Special Forces involvement
Journalist Sir Trevor MacDonald in his book 'An improbable life' - page 26 reports that US 'security operatives' quietly landed in Trinidad and were of assistance, including offering to 'take out' the hostage-takers, but they surrendered before such a decision needed to be taken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.6.92 (talk) 15:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Bernadette James
The death of Bernadette James, while tragic and possibly suspicious, doesn't belong in this article as far as I can tell. Guettarda (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Please discuss instead of just reverting.
 * The COE said
 * The Commission finds that the manner in which Bernadette James died was the subject of malicious gossip which, in a small society, can easily be elevated to  rumour  and  given  the  currency  of  fact.    We  accept  that  the allegations  have  caused  Mr.  Richardson’s  widow  and  Mr.  Atwell  great  hurt  and distress (p.590)
 * and concluded
 * The Commission  finds  that,  even  if  the  Bernadette  James  affair resonated with the leadership of the JAM, it played no real part in their decision to attempt the coup (p.591)
 * We certainly can report on the fact that Abu Bakr made mention of her death among the justifications, but we also need to be sure to present the finding of the COE that it was "malicious gossip".
 * There's also the issue off undue weight. This article is much too short. Dedicating a whole section to her death unbalances the article as it stands. Wikipedia articles aren't just a random collection of information. They need to reflect things in a balanced fashion. Guettarda (talk) 11:08, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Ok sure. We can mention this case as one of Yasin Abu Bakr's justifications. This case is often mentioned in books and media when the anniversary is being reflected on. Not mentioning it at all would seem a bit incomplete under the "Backgroud" topic. I agree that we can truncate this section or we can include it in the "anti-drug campaign" sub-topic since her death is related to an alleged drug deal.

We can also mention the COE findings which brings me to a question. Should we expand the "Aftermath" topic stating more of the COE findings?

KyronR (talk) 12:28, 27 July 2020 (UTC)