Talk:Jamaican tangelo

Ugli fruit's second edit removed details (description of the fruit), links (to citrus, Jamaica, etc), and NPOV (went from describing the physical appearance of the fruit to talking about its taste (So sweet and juicy! And easy to peel!).

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Reverted to earlier version, with one caveat: both versions of the page included text stating that the fruit was available throughout the winter and the spring, without clarifying the region with respect to which the seasons were relevant.

This was a greater problem with the second page than the first, since the second page emphasized sales over North America and Europe, while the first only mentioned the source, Jamaica, allowing the presumption that the seasons were relative to Jamaica.

It might be prudent to replace this with the actual months of availability, as more generally applicable, and requiring less thought on the part of a reader.

The second page did make the point that UGLI (R) is a registered trademark of Cabel Hall Citrus Ltd., and this should probably be incorporated into the article.

The second page also bears considerable similarity to text from http://www.ugli.com/home.html, though not to the extent of being a complete copy/paste (unless it was from an earlier version of the page).

I did take the step of informing the original author of the page regarding the changes.


 * Copyrighted the name may be, but I've also seen these in supermarkets all over the southern and midwestern US with labels affixed saying "UNIQ FRUIT, Product of Jamaica," and then below that "UNIQ FRUIT Co. Ltd.," with a mailing address that is a post office box in Montego Bay, Jamaica. I have one in front of me at this moment.  Is it some kind of black-market citrus?  A pirated fruit?  It's criminally delicious!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.156.96 (talk) 22:57, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Found a page http://whatscookingamerica.net/UgliFruit.htm that gives the actual months of availability, as I suggested above. The site also claims that the fruit is seedless, so I am including that.

http://eat.epicurious.com/dictionary/food/index.ssf?DEF_ID=4359 claims that pomelo may be the other half w/the tangerine, which is also implied by the exotic tangelo labeling given the fruit by the distributor.

http://www.internationalrecipesonline.com/recipes/dictionary.pl?7096 makes the same claim with identical text : looks like Wikipedia isn't the only aggregator that ought to be on a more careful lookout for copyvio, though I suppose they could be single-sourced legitimately.

i just ate an ugli fruit, and it definitely has seeds!
 * Indeed. Sometimes they have seeds, sometimes they don't.  This is Original Research, of course, and not documentable, but for whatever it's worth, as someone who eats them whenever they are in season, I observe that:  when the fruit is peeled and separated into segments, most often each segment will have one or two large seeds near what was previously the center of the fruit.  Sometimes you get a seedless one, but that is in my experience uncommon.

Best. Citrus. Ever.

1914 or 1924?
The article first says the fruit was bred in 1914 but later says it was first discovered growing wild in 1924.

Merge into tangelo?
I think that this article should be merged into the tangelo article. UGLI is a registered trademark for a type of tangelo, however, given that the product goes under several other names from other growers (i.e. the "Uniq" label, which is not trademarked), it isn't really proper to describe the product itself under one specific trademark. Given that it meets all requirements as a tangelo and UGLI consistently markets it as a type of tangelo, it seems logical to merge it into the tangelo article, and convert this page into a redirect.

I'll do so in a couple days unless anyone has any concerns. Riotgear 11:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it's been a couple days. But I agree completely.  From what I can tell, it is merely a trademarked variety of tangelo. -Verdatum (talk) 19:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

It's awkward to call it a tangelo with no actual science behind that description, at least none cited in the article; it appears to be only a vague guess. I would say the appearance of an ugli fruit is more similar to a papeda hybrid.Clodya (talk) 07:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

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Inconsistent
The title of the article calls it the Ugli fruit, but the article itself refers to it as ugly fruit, what should be done about this? -- Kyzza1 Talk 02:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Bitter tangerine?
"The taste is often described as more sour than an orange and less bitter than a tangerine, however, and is more commonly guessed to be a lemon-tangerine hybrid."

I've never tasted a bitter tangerine, only sweet or sour. Is this correct?


 * Such descriptions can only be subjective, of course, but to me they taste like grapefruit, but sweet rather than bitter, with a hint of orange flavor as well. I would not characterize the flavor as "bitter," except in instances where the fruit is not fully ripe.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.156.96 (talk) 16:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)