Talk:James Hales

Page Move
Hi Bensci54,

I notice that while I was creating the article you moved the page title from 'James Hales (died 1554)' to 'James Hales', giving as a reason that 'Having the DoD in the title is unnecessary'. I should perhaps explain that I included the date of death in the title because the name 'James Hales' is not an unusual one, and I was thinking ahead to the need for possible disambiguation later if articles on other persons also named 'James Hales' happened to be created. NinaGreen (talk) 22:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If future disambiguation is needed, I suggest that the article should be moved to 'James Hales (judge)' or similar. This is how Wikipedia articles are commonly differentiated. Bensci54 (talk) 00:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It appears a citation bot you created has deleted my citations as well as a section of text. I asked about it at the help desk just now . Could you fix it? Thanks. NinaGreen (talk) 01:31, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Sir James Hales (died 1589)
All the stuff below on the grandson is very interesting but I'm removing it from the article because it is either worth an article on its own or else it falls into the abyss of non-notable genealogy:


 * Sir James Hales (died 1589) was knighted by Queen Elizabeth at Cobham Hall in September 1573. Sir James Hales (d.1589) married Alice Kempe (d.1592), the daughter of Sir Thomas Kempe (d. 7 March 1591) of Olantigh in Wye, Kent, by his first wife, Katherine Cheney, daughter and co-heiress of Sir Thomas Cheney, Treasurer of the Royal Household and Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports, by whom he had a son, Cheyney Hales. Alice is the dedicatee of Greene's Menaphon (published 1589), in which she is said to have been 'the patterne of a louing and vertuous wife, whose ioyes liued in hir husbands weale, and ended with his life'. After the death of Sir James Hales in 1589, Alice married Sir Richard Lee (d. 22 December 1608) of Hook Norton, illegitimate brother of Queen Elizabeth's champion, Sir Henry Lee.

Clifford Mill (talk) 14:51, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Unused sources
I have removed the list of "Further reading" and "External links" from article space to here. The small biography has a lot of sources and the sources in further reading these are largely ones left over from previous versions of this article. Some of them my prove useful is the article is expanded. But with cited sources that include ODNB and History of Parliament, this is unlikely for notable information.


 * ==Further reading==


 * ==External links==
 * Hales, from Hasted's History of Kent
 * James Hales in Foxe's Book of Martyrs
 * Lawsuit over Fillets manor to which James Hales and his first wife Mary were parties
 * Grant of 22 April 1521 to Mary, wife of James Hales
 * Interest of Mary Hales in manor of East Ginge in West Hendred
 * Manor of Fillets
 * St Mildred's Church, Canterbury
 * Will of Humphrey Hales, son of Sir James Hales
 * Will of Humphrey Hales, son of Sir James Hales

-- PBS (talk) 13:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)