Talk:James Joyce/Archive 4

Was Joyce an anarchist?
This article is in two anarchist categories, & tagged for the Anarchy wikiproject. The four mentions in this very comprehensive article don't seem to justify this - he read some books by anarchists early in his life, but in those days most intellectuals did. I'm fine with the equivalent treatment for socialism, which seems justified. Johnbod (talk) 18:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

To add to this; two sections above this malaise are titled "British?" and "Danish". Ceoil (talk) 20:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If it isn't a "defining" trait, yes, it should be removed as a category. This said, there seems to be enough to warrant mention that he was influenced by egoist individualist anarchism (Benjamin Tucker) and associated in anarchist social circles, even if he rejected labels.    Relatedly, Sonn's Sex, Violence, and the Avant-garde: Anarchism in Interwar France (p. 96) remarks on how Ulysses was also published in the individualist anarchist journal The Egoist.    See also Shantz, Specters of Anarchy: Literature and the Anarchist Imagination, Chapter 3: "Suspicious of the State: The Anarchist Politics of James Joyce" (summary: Joyce rejected labels, held "ironic distance" from his autobiographical characters, spoke of influence anarchist thinkers had on him). Manganiello also has a full chapter on the topic but I don't have a copy.


 * Also I let the WikiProject know about this discussion. czar  06:25, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks - one of those armchair anarchists. Johnbod (talk) 04:32, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, ; at one point, it appeared that too much had been collapsed along with the premature RFC collapse. Thx for fixing, Sandy Georgia  (Talk)  02:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree the sourcing is too poor to call this a "defining trait" but strong enough to include a mention/discussion of the specifics in the body. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 05:12, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Joyce's reading of Tucker is mentioned in the "Joyce and Politics" section. Wtfiv (talk) 17:36, 6 December 2022 (UTC)