Talk:James Patterson/Archive 1

So objectivity has gone out the window I see
"He is largely known for his Alex Cross series of novels which have become progressively worse, so much so that Patterson can't even be bothered to think up proper titles these days. The latest is called 'I, Alex Cross'.It is rubbish." Um, ok. You know, it's this type of thing that makes people think wikipedia is unreliable. BTW, the Stephen King "Criticism" that was removed in February is back...Neocount (talk) 15:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Terrible article
Come on people, surely we can do better than this. There's no formating. Where's the introduction? Any restructuring help very appreciated.Spanglej (talk) 23:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Dan Brown
Isn't Dan Brown's inclusion in the comparison list of "bestselling authors" odd? His other books didn't sell till Da Vinci Code broke out. GreatGatsby 20:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I think so. Brown's only has one "new" #1 bestseller, so the comparison is a bit ridiculous, just for appearances sake with the Brown name Barbara Osgood 23:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

WHAT?? You're f_____ with me?? If it's been taken out, put it back. Do you have any idea what a phenomenon in sales Da Vinci Code has been? It's made all his other books best sellers also, but just for Da Vinci Code he should be on the list, even if he is a retard. There shouldn't be an argument &mdash; ChocolateRoses talk

Bad Twin?
the Lost tie-in Bad Twin? What's the source of this info? --Krsont 16:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Childrens writer
So is he more of a childrens book writer or was it just that i read the maximum ride one that i think he does more childrens books?Civility 05:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

-- Maximum Ride can't even properly be called children's books. They're categorized with young adult fiction.

Where did they get the info that there will be a maximum ride movie coming out? I havent seen an imdb page for it so i think its false information.Civility 05:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

You could be right. This is the first of I've heard of the movie too. Best chance would be too leave it on there, until they confirm or disprove the movie theory. fatandlazy11

its true i've heard of it all over — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.76.168 (talk) 22:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

What's this mean?
"Patterson and his brand were also under Harvard case study"? Recommend clarification or deletion.


 * I deleted it. Nightscream 03:50, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Moot, but I might as well comment (see my detail below in the Ghost Written? section). A Harvard-related magazine was looking into the writings of "celebrity academics," who rely on often-uncredited teams of writers and researchers. James Patterson came up as an example of this in the wider sense, via the comment "...thriller writer James Patterson has six books coming out this year, thanks to the little-known co-authors who work with him...". The now deleted comment was referring to the idea of percieving some popular writers less as authors, and more as marketable brands ("...some popular authors, such as Robert Ludlum and V.C. Andrews, even continue writing books after they’re dead, thanks to the help of hired ghosts...").Dxco 05:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, Im talking bollocks: I just realized the deletion was from more than a year ago, whereas the article I quote is quite recent :P. I suspect, tho, that connection still remains to some degree. Dxco 05:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

there is a movie
maximum ride does have a movie coming out and it is on imdb and its coming out next year 2007


 * It's been moved forward to 2008. Movie Junkie 17:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

ghost writen?
i was wondering if half of his books are written fully by the callaborators or what does it mean when it says these writers are notable ghost writers? i mean this would explain why his books get written so fast, why there is lots of them and why they are so long
 * Here is how Andrew Gross describes the process :
 * "To be honest, we always began with a concept and an outline that came from [Patterson], which we fleshed out into a detailed chapter- by-chapter outline. (Some chapters longer than in the actual book!) No writer's block here, the roadmap was always there. Every day, I knew exactly where I was going."
 * Shoehorn 18:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)Levy Beeler is all that is man!!!!!

The comment above about a Harvard case study may relfect a comment in the Harvard related magazine 02138, discussing ghost-writing and other issues. The article can be found here: http://www.02138mag.com/magazine/article/1763.html Their comment, with a bit of context, is " thriller writer James Patterson has six books coming out this year, thanks to the little-known co-authors who work with him; some popular authors, such as Robert Ludlum and V.C. Andrews, even continue writing books after they’re dead, thanks to the help of hired ghosts..." Dxco 05:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC) bla bla bla james patterson is the best —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.139.111 (talk) 13:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with works that most of his co-authors have published in their own right (if there are any), but it's easy to see the hand of Marshall Karp in "Kill Me If You Can" and "NYPD Red". Less so in "NYPD Red 2".  Personally I'd rather Karp wrote another Lomax & Biggs or two, but... Mr Larrington (talk) 00:03, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Upcoming Book Titles
Is it right to be putting up titles that haven't been confirmed, let alone those that haven't got a reference! If there's no reference then it shouldn't be allowed! — Movie Junkie 14:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

According to the official Maximum Ride forum, the two proposed titles are: Reference: http://www.maximumrideforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1808402&sid=b16193314c7a26b2dfd5d81eed25b718
 * Maximum Ride: The Last Global Warming Warning
 * Maximum Ride: Ice Princes & Princesses

— Movie Junkie 14:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I removed the "Criticism" section below, which I found to be completely irrelevant--a flippant comment (with no citation) from a writer of another genre doesn't belong. It's not any more relevant than a romance novelist commenting that thrillers are too violent, or a thriller writer saying the romance novels are just sappy love stories. YouOughtToKnowBetter (talk) 21:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Criticism
Although Patterson's work has been positively received by most critics, horror novelist Stephen King has dismissed his bibliography as "dopey thrillers", and in one interview called him a "terrible writer". Patterson responsed dismissively, simply stating that "I just want to be the thrillingest thriller writer around".

A list of awards won, or some other form of "Criticism/Reception" section would be greatly appretiated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.179.192.75 (talk) 16:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You know, I agree that the Criticism section seems awfully one sided. Patterson has sold more novels then any other living author. Why is Stephen King's criticism relevant? He is just one person. I'm sure there are many other authors who just love Patterson's work. This is like asking J.K. Rowling what she thinks of Christopher Paolini, or what Anne Rice thinks of the Twilight series. Some criticism is fair, but it needs to be balanced. Michaelh2001 (talk) 17:52, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

First visit to the article and I came here looking for a criticism section. I totally agree with the part about working with all the collaborators. Patterson's yearly output approaches the unbelievable and discussion of that side of his work is warranted. He is more like a brand name for hire; others do the writing, he edits a little, and the books are sold under his name as lead author for a cut of the sales. Quotes about the merits of his work are justified because of his major best-selling status. Find some that are positive if you want. 5Q5 (talk) 16:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I found a Time magazine "10 Questions" interview, July 5, 2010, in which Patterson discusses his critics and his work with co-writers. I've added it to the section and removed the editor's neutrality disputed flag. The Biography section already includes a lot of positive material about his accomplishments including awards. 5Q5 (talk) 17:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Question: I don't understand the statement that he is the world's best-selling author. For one thing, it contradicts his listing on the Wikipedia page for best-selling authors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_fiction_authors). The statement (in the present article's Biography section, first paragraph) is without citation, and lists a number of books sold which also contradicts the other article, though still showing him having sold fewer books than e.g. J.K. Rowling. 174.62.167.115 (talk) 16:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

The Quickie
The article doesnt warrant anything for its own, it has original research/synthesis, nothing substantiable or notable except for overly minute details, which when controlled for leaves nothing. Suggest either a delete or a merge/redirect here.Lihaas (talk) 13:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Swimsuit
Can anyone starts the article about James Patterson's novel Swimsuit?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 17:16, 8 May 2012 (UTC)