Talk:Jami' al-tawarikh

French version
English version of (23:07, 1 November 2007) = French version of (24 septembre 2007 à 20:03) -- for anyone in future that wants to synchronise later updates.

Other manuscripts
Hits for other manuscripts, possibly later copies, found on Google.

U.Chicago microfilm list :
 * Topkapi Sarayi Muzesi ms. Revan 1518. Copied Baghdad 1317-18.  Microfilmed, 1985.
 * London: British Museum ms. Add. 16 688
 * Vienna: Osterreichische Nationalbibliothek ms. Mxt. 326 (Flugel 957) (MMP 23 045)

Misc hits
 * Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris, France. Pix: ,.

Other online images/webpages

 * U. Edinburgh

Sale prices
On July 8, 1980 what is now the Khalili portion sold at Sotheby's for £850,000 - $2,017,050 to a firm of Swiss lawyers acting for an unidentified client. 

Khalili acquired it in 1990. He is variously claimed to have paid for it $10 million (Forbes, 2005), $12 million (Bloomberg/Herald Tribune, 2007), or an undisclosed amount, "reportedly the most expensive ever sold, although the price has never been revealed." (The Art Newspaper, 2007).

Jheald 10:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Translations
Any English versions availible (especially public domain ones we could copy into wikisource)?Lexington1 (talk) 04:17, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I see no public domain translation, but in the international literatoure about islamic things I see this: Rashid al-Din, Rashiduddin Fazlullah’s Jami’t-tawarikh (Compendium of Chronicles):

A History of the Mongols, tr. W. M. Thackston, 3 vols (Harvard, 1998–9). Why is this book not mentioned in the article? --Dlugacz (talk) 07:58, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Duplication [and clarification] tags
The discussion of the inspiration for the nativity scene is discussed in the section on the Arab manuscript. Also, the borrowing of imagery. There does not appear to be a reason to repeat it. Alanscottwalker (talk) 09:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have adjusted this, but the section should perhaps be merged into the more detailed discussion further down. It talks of "the manuscript" whichout making it clear which manuscript - the Arabic one presumably? Johnbod (talk) 11:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Better. Yes.  That reference is still unclear, so merger may fix that.  Also, what is meant by "errors" in that paragraph, and "stock figures"  -- the latter is either anachronistic or needs more explanation. Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:41, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "errors" is wrong I think - "adaptions" maybe. "Stock figures" just means unexplained figures standing around for no obvious reason & is maybe not right here (there is staffage). But I haven't seen the source.Johnbod (talk) 13:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, also "simple," what is meant by that? Alanscottwalker (talk) 15:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I have moved the most problematic sentence from the article to here for cleanup:

"Despite the apparent detail in the illustrations of the manuscript, many of the images contain errors,  used borrowed imagery from other traditions such as Christian manuscripts, or simple  rearrangements of stock figures."

Alanscottwalker (talk) 19:03, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Princeton Digital Library of Islamic Manuscripts
http://library.princeton.edu/projects/islamic/

http://pudl.princeton.edu/collections/pudl0032

http://pudl.princeton.edu/collection.php?c=pudl0032&sort=title&rpp=14&language_f=Persian

[Leaf from the Jāmiʻ al-tavārīkh depicting nine Chinese emperors]

http://pudl.princeton.edu/objects/rv042v44x

http://pudl.princeton.edu/objects/13b0e65d-3d6c-46f0-b32b-b3dd15f39428

[Leaf from the Jāmiʻ al-tavārīkh depicting seven Chinese emperors]

http://pudl.princeton.edu/objects/n296x052z

http://pudl.princeton.edu/objects/68abb2c7-6e6a-44e7-890e-f50bf28e6bd7

Rajmaan (talk) 12:22, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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al-Tawarikh with a capital "T"
Hi, the second word of the title needs to be capitalized replacing the lower case "t" with an upper case "T". Can an authorized editor/admin make the move? Thank you. 46.31.118.91 (talk) 08:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)