Talk:Jan de Hartog

Topics for addition and expansion

 * Early Houston: I want to include the events leading up to "The Hospital" and add a little more of the positive results that came from that book. Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * War Orphans: I'd like more information and sources regarding the prelude to how he and his wife were involved with the Korean War Orphans prior to the adoption of his daughters. If I can document and source the events enough to tie his involvement to it, I want to include the story he used to tell about the "Sick hospital" Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * More Pictures.. I'm trying to get the article up to a more stable state before getting Jan de Hartog's widow involved, but I'm sure she'll have a great picture I can use.  I've seen some great ones that even include him as a "sea mouse" and suchlike that I hope she'll allow me to use.  Failing that, I know I can get others from Christmas gatherings and suchlike, though they wouldn't be as nice. Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Dowsing: I want to expand upon his involvement with Dowsing. He taught me how to dowse properly. I actually ran into someone that had "heard of him" because of his dowsing, so perhaps his involvement is more documentable than I suspect. Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * More Awards: He's always downplayed the award thing, but awards serve a purpose in calling attention towards someone who, for one reason or another, deserves that attention.  I think it's inspiring, and useful to try and document everything we can find.  If nothing else, I have pictures of his "Key to the City of Clearwater", though I doubt it'll be easy to get a history on it. He was even knighted, yet I can't find anything official on it.Deadguy71 (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * in 1966 he was awarded the "Edmond Hustinxprijs voor toneelschrijvers" which translates from Dutch into the "Edmond Hustinx for playwrights." He was the first to be awarded this. ( I'm looking for references other than ( The dutch version of his wikipedia page) or ( Dutch wikipedia page for the award) M.Scott (talk) 23:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * in 1900 he was awarded the "Jacobson-prijs" which translates from Dutch into the "Jacobson Prize". The Jacobson prize is a five-year Dutch literary prize awarded to older literature.  (Again.. looking for a better reference than the  Dutch wikipedia page for the awardM.Scott (talk) 23:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Concern regarding accuracy
Part of the problem with Jan de Hartog's history is that bits and pieces of it are the result of his storytelling, as opposed to what actually occurred. With (I beleive) the only exception being The Hospital his stories have fiction intertwined with the reality. This includes stories about the author's own life.

Wikipedia's official stance is that if it's referenced and cited from a secondary perspective, from a reliable source, it is eligible for inclusion in a Wikipedia article. The TRUTH or accuracy is not to be determined independant of the secondary sources.--M. Scott Deadguy71 (talk) 12:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Ratings adjusted
This article is no longer a start-class article by my estimation. I rated it (perhaps conservatively) to a "C" class article in the hopes that it would be re-evaluated by others. Perhaps it should be considered a "B" class article, but I hesitate to give it that without some outside input on the matter. I apologize if I have done this incorrectly, and request instruction on the matter if this is the case. M.Scott (talk) 17:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 19:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Pictures
Is the picture allegedly of Jan de Hartog dated 1943 definitely him? The facial features are absolutely not at all like that of the older man pictured- not the ears, nose, or mouth. An image search for Jan de Hartog on Google provided only this 1943 image of him at a young age, meaning there are no others to corroborate this. Perhaps it is indeed him, but the face of the man in the 1943 image is so very different that one wonders. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.221.53 (talk) 14:50, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Difficult article
This article required significant editing. As I wrote in one of my edit summaries, encyclopedia writing is unlike writing for any other media, but is most closely associated with newspaper style. We write only the facts in the fewest, most direct words possible. We are not writing to entertain. I cannot stress that strongly enough. We are not writing for press releases or biographies. Wikipedia articles are to be a summary of the subject containing only the most important information. I have tried to trim this bloated article to proper encyclopedia style. It still needs work. I am unhappy with the sources but have run out of time. I encourage any editor out there with a moment to jump into this article and help where you can. All the best to all of you. MarydaleEd (talk) 23:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)