Talk:Jane Jacobs

Some mixed comments
Here's the criteria I've referenced for inclusion in the "20th Century philosophers" category:

"This article takes philosophy not in the more general sense of a system of belief or ideology but as a tradition that generally requires a degree of more or less formalized study (although autodidacts have not been excluded) and a degree of institutional recognition in the form of work incorporated into subsequent formalized teaching in university philosophical education. Articles referenced here are expected to substantiate standing by demonstrating either of the above criteria."

There's nothing to substantiate this in the article. If you can substantiate it, please do. I would, however, add that there are no small number of profound and/or influential thinkers who do not meet the above definition, including influential and subtle conceptual thinkers. Exclusion under the above definition should not be taken as deprecation. If you have an alternate definition that prevents the term "philosopher" from becoming a catch-all, please propose it on Category talk: 20th Century philosophers. In the interim, I'd prefer to drop the categorisation in this article. Buffyg 17:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Truely an amazing thinker. Her book Cities and the Wealth of Nations should cause every economist to rethink their assumptions about national economies.

What does it mean to say that a "moral syndrome" is "applicable" to some set of people? Does it mean that the "syndrome" has those people as its subject? Or that those people are likely to espouse the beliefs described by the "syndrome"? Or something else? I think the paragraph that uses this terminology should be rewritten for clarity.

I'm a bit new here, so I'm not sure how to do this - but it seems if you're going to use a quote source (namely Ideas that Matter: the Worlds of Jane Jacobs) three times in the first six paragraphs, there should be some kind of shorthand so you don't have to give the full title every time.


 * There is no convention in Wikipedia for doing this, probably since Wikipedia is not paper the issue of saving space this way doesn't arise. This article certainly needs work and if you are interested in Jane Jacobs I hope you will take the plunge. BTW, Please consider creating an account for yourself; takes all of two minutes. -- Viajero 17:40, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Given the importance of The Death and Life of Great American Cities, shouldn't either that section be expanded or a separate article on Death and Life be written? --Senning, 22Jan2006

so what's the Guardian/Trade Ethics
I got redirected here from Guardian/Trade Ethics, but I don't see these terms anywhere on this page. Can someone add an explanation?

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Protestant?
Many people assume she was Jewish, either by birth or marriage. Maybe it doesn't matter, but people are curious about things like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.162.253.101 (talk) 21:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Jacobs is a well known Jewish last name, so maybe her her husband was Jewish. One source says her family was protestant, another says they were Jewish. Maybe she had a parent from each. Butzner is German/ or Eastern European (Jewish?) https://www.notablebiographies.com/supp/Supplement-Fl-Ka/Jacobs-Jane.html https://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/jane-jacobs-urban-visionary/article20414634/ Starbwoy (talk) 00:18, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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On orthodox urbanism...
I can't say I am extremely familiar with Jane Jacobs, having only read "Dark Age Ahead". So I couldn't and didn't fix this by myself. But what's with this random section at the end of the article? Is it part of the discussion of "Death and Life"? If so, it should be moved there. Is orthodox urbanism integral to an understanding of Jacobs' own urban philosophy? If so, why is a deeper explanation not in the overview? Is the section rather more of a see-also list? If it is, it should be moved there. Τηε ΓΟΟΔ (talk) 12:37, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

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Incorrect assertion in lead?
The lead of this article currently states that Jacobs introduced the terms "eyes on the street" and "social capital". The evidence for these is not provided in the citations given, and some cursory research reveals that the latter term existed before she used it. Someone with more expertise in this area should correct the errors. - Sdkb (talk) 09:25, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Jane Jacobs and Lewis Mumford
Jane Jacobs was a major theorist in urban planning. Jacobs & Mumford have each been influential thinkers to whom I’ve paid some attention. Jane’s daughter, (Mary) Burgin Jacobs, has been a friend and one-time neighbor of mine. It was through Burgin that I had the pleasure of meeting Jane one time, decades ago. Burgin feels, and I agree, the contrast, in certain respects, between her mother’s and Mumford’s views has been obvious and significant.

I believe someone could do a good job with bringing in the contrasts (and criticisms) each respectfully had with the other. Mumford's name is mentioned in the Jacobs article. Since urban planning hasn’t been a major focus in my life, I wouldn’t be an appropriate person to do this in the Jacobs article (nor into the one about Mumford).

Please, if you have the background & knowledge, consider bringing this contrast in viewpoints (and spheres of influence) into the article.Joel Russ (talk) 19:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC)