Talk:Jane Pierce

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What's up with Jane's right hand? It appears either gloved or some how blackened. Frost bite?

Why is this Jane Pierce artical linked to Jamestown? It cannot possibly be the same person as the third wife of John Rolf! The dates are completely wrong not to mention the history.

Nickname
A single reference I have states that Mrs. Pierce was known by Washington as the "Shadow of the White House". Anyone have other references for this?

Losing her grip with reality?
I have a source that claims she spent two years of her life in the upstairs of the White House writing "maudlin"letters to her dead son? Can anyone else confirm this?

Invalid?
This article refers to her as an invalid at the end of her life, but doesn't say what the cause was. Just depression? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.149.78.122 (talk) 04:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)   Mrs Pierce almost certainly had tuberculosis, along with the varied and somewhat amorphous somatic afflictions of what was called at the time neurasthenia. Plutonium27 (talk) 03:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

WP: Women's History Assessment Commentary
The article was assessed C-class for lack of in-line citations. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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Mess
When I stumbled upon this article, it included only two footnotes--one referring to a YouTube video and another to a dubious-looking website. (There were some other references listed, but there were no inline citations to them.) It had been tagged for insufficient sources since 2017. Some material had been directly lifted from another website. There was a glaring historical error. What a mess.

I have cleaned this up a bit and solved some of the obvious problems, but a lot more inline citations are needed and the article just needs more work overall. I have bumped it down to Start-class. 24.29.56.240 (talk) 13:47, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

What's wrong with political ambition?
Jane's family was opposed to the union due to Pierce's political ambitions.
 * Was he batting for the wrong side, or did they just not like politicians? Valetude (talk) 01:04, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

WiG brief review
This generally looks like a solid piece of work. The sources look generally good, but I'm not sure about the sourcebooks publication. There are a few places where the prose gets confusing, redundant, or colloquial: for instance, the "The two were together for seven years"; there were together far longer, presumably this refers to the period before marriage. "supported the preservation of slavery in order to preserve the nation and the Constitution" reads as somewhat POV. I've made a few minor copy-edits to address some of these, but in other places access to the sources is needed to make the fixes. The biggest issue to me is the lead; it's very confusingly ordered, and contains redundancy. It also mentions Varina Davis performing First Lady duties, which is not something covered in the body. I would recommend rewriting the lead completely prior to GAN, but otherwise, I see no reason not to nominate this after some prose fixes. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:30, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Feedback
Agree with Vanamonde. Looks good. I made minor copyedits. Best wishes for your GAN. -4 October 2022 edited SusanLesch (talk) 14:43, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The images all seem to be missing their "alt" descriptions.
 * In "Marriage and family," maybe mention the effect on Jane of the deaths of her two other children, building to Benjamin's tragic death. (Could also be in the lead if it was significant.)
 * It would be nice reword the ending. Her opinion of Crockett sort of walks off a cliff at the end.