Talk:Jane Pilgrim

NPOV issues
This article was written by one person who clearly has an agenda against the trade unions, and is completely one sided as a result, portraying an entirely negative image of Jane Pilgrim. Almost all of the References are links to Pro-Conservative websites, including Order-Order (a political gossip blog currently campaigning against Jane Pilgrim) or the Daily Mail (a right-wing tabloid). 129.67.50.144 (talk) 11:55, 15 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't accuse people of 'clearly having an agenda', as Wikipedians' should assume good faith on the part of others. I would, however, ask for the editor, User:Leviathant11, to answer here.  Since this is the only article he or she has ever edited, you may very well be correct.


 * On the substantive points, there's nothing inherently wrong with citing news articles from the Daily Mail. That it is a Conservative-supporting newspaper (with idiotic views on most things) does not detract from the fact that it is still the UK's second most-read newspaper, a middle-market newspaper, and a reliable source.


 * To maintain a neutral point of view, Wikipedia articles must represent the balance of opinion from across all reliable sources. If the only reliable sources that discuss the subject are pro-Conservative, that's kinda tough; Wikipedia should reflect them.  Nonetheless, I doubt that that has been the case.  If you can, please look for other reliable sources – I will endeavour to do the same – that will allow us to cite a broader range of sources. Bastin 14:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed that the Daily Mail is considered RS, but what about Guido Fawkes's blog and ConservativeHome? They're blogs and are not considered RS. As such, they should be removed. Dominic (talk) 19:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, and since this is a biography of a living person, the standards for verifiability are considerably higher than for other articles, so making this article conform to WP:NPOV is crucial. Bastin 14:56, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

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