Talk:Jans der Enikel

Link to a free online version of Jans' poetry?
I might do a search to see if a free online version exists, later on. You can help by being faster than me. :) --ΟΥΤΙΣ (talk) 20:10, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

No, disregard that, I apparently misunderstood: The (anecdotal) poetry is part of how he wrote his chronicles, right? We already have an online link for that in the article, pointing to dunphy.de, courtesy of Mister Loon himself. --ΟΥΤΙΣ (talk) 20:14, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, when it says he was a poet, it means that his chronicles were verse chronicles. There are no other poems. --Doric Loon (talk) 21:31, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * So I have just changed that to remove the word "poet", which gives the impression of lyricism.--Doric Loon (talk) 21:37, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Biographical data?
Are there no preserved church records from Vienna of this period that might have recorded his birth, baptism, wedding and / or death? --ΟΥΤΙΣ (talk) 03:42, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Unlikely. Perger was very thorough. --Doric Loon (talk) 17:23, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

How is Jans mentioned by someone else if he was the official scribe?
(Just had a little Columbo moment when this question came to my mind.)

If Jans was Vienna's town scribe of the period and is mentioned in the city council's records, shouldn't he be the one mentioning himself there, too?

I see that it's hard to do with a few surviving 700 years old documents, but did anyone ever try and compare the handwriting to see if any are by the same author? --ΟΥΤΙΣ (talk) 10:05, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Brilliant question. I have no idea what Perger was looking at, but it is quite possible we have Jans' handwriting in some of the Vienna council documents. However I don't think there will be an autograph manuscript of the either of chronicles - even the earliest manuscripts were produced in a workshop, which is rather like a medieval publishing house, and the actual writing is the work of professional scribes. There are medieval writers whose work exists in autograph, but almost certainly not Jans. --Doric Loon (talk) 17:27, 2 August 2021 (UTC)