Talk:Japanese martial arts titles

Are you quite sure Sensei only (correctly) refers to teachers in martial arts? I was sure the term was correctly used in Go too... Evercat 22:01 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)


 * AFAIK, with my limited Japanese, sensei refers to about any person teaching any given subject to students. It is common practice in Japanese to call the teacher not by his/her name but simply use sensei. --synthetik 16:36 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * OK, I looked up my resources again and found that they do use sensei for any teacher in general, but it is not the literal term for "teacher". "kyoushi" means school-teacher literally and "kyouju" refers to a professor.  The literal meaning of sensei is "one who lived before", which is roughly equatable to "knowledgeable elder".  Blanking the section about only being used for martial arts masters was a good idea since they apparently do not (they even refer to politicians as sensei), but why did you blank the section about living at a dojo.  Sensei of martial arts (specifically) do live/work at a dojo.  Unless someone has objections, that section is now unblanked. Emperorbma 18:44 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * Not only are these titles used outside of budo. The division of ranks and titles is probably true in a specific art or organisation, but it is not general as this page now implies. / Habj 11:26, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Shihan
Could somebody write a little more on why calling a martial arts teacher sensei would be derogatory?

Its not. I rewrote the section a bit.Peter Rehse 04:21, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

O-sensei
I agree my edit of sensei was a bit clumsy. I changed it initially because it gave the impression that other martial arts besides Aikido refer to Ueshiba M. as O-sensei. Not the case. Even within Aikido it is much more common outside Japan. It still leaves that impression but I'll leave the change to others. DannyWilde I actually started Aikido in Tsukuba way back. Recognize JH from your talk page.Peter Rehse 09:14, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Page is inconsistient
There is still some inconsistiency between this page and the main Japanese titles page. I think the Japanses titles page is more accurate. It may be worthwhile to integrate this page into it. Brianglass 19:22, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree it would be an improvement to merge the page with Japanese titles. // Habj 22:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't. There are some titles that are pretty specific to martial arts or at least not that common outside. I vote to leave it as is.Peter Rehse 02:40, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The page Japanese titles have many subsections for titles in different areas. // Habj 23:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I wont scream and shout if it is merged - just expressed an opinion. Please go ahead.Peter Rehse 00:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Merged - thanks Brianglass 04:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC)