Talk:Jass

Dutch?
The info box say that the game is Dutch, and played with a Dutch pack, whereas the article says that the earliest references to the game is from Switzerland, and is played with a Swiss deck. The only mention of Dutch in the article proper is reference to the fact that the *family* of games from which Jass arose had a Dutch origin (which does not imply that Jass itself has a Dutch origin - at least any more so than Pinochle). -- 140.142.20.229 (talk) 17:15, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

The "Dutch" claim was misleading. The point is that all these Sixty-six (card game)-related card games appear to have originated in the Netherlands around 1400. Thus "Dutch origin" refers to the remote prehistory of the game family, not the origin of this particular game. The Dutch, incidentially, got the game from the Mamluks, so it would be as accurate to say the game is of "Egyptian origin".

In the modern period, the Swiss game is Jass while the (separate) Dutch one is Klaberjass. --dab (𒁳) 12:16, 19 April 2010 (UTC)