Talk:Jawan Mohammed Qatna

About the killing of a citizen journalist
This article is about the killing of a citizen journalist. It is not a biography, and if it was a biography then it would fail Wikipedia's notability criteria for having a biography on the grounds that the subject was a low-profile individual prior to his death. This person is only notable for a single event - the manner of his death. As a victim of a crime, his biography can be included in the article about the crime, but the article needs to be named for the crime committed against the person. That means this article should be renamed to the "Killing of Jawan Mohamed Qatna" or similar. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 02:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Location of Derbassiyeh in Syria
This article says Derbassiyeh is in the East of Syria, as well as in the North East of Syria. A town cannot be in two different places and since Wikipedia does not have an article under that place name, I am curious about where it actually is. Is there an alternative name for this place? This report says "Derbassiyeh" is a Kurdish-controlled town in northeastern Syria. And this report from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says "Derbassiyeh" is a border town with Turkey and a road connects the town to a place called "Amuda". Although this diagram from the UN OHCR shows "Derbassiyeh" as a border crossing town opposite Şenyurt in Turkey, and another report from the UN OHCR indicates "Derbassiyeh" is a district north of Al Hasaketh, the accompanying map shows the name as Ad Darbisyeh. So I am wondering if "Derbassiyeh" is also known as Al-Dirbasiyah? - Cameron Dewe (talk) 04:51, 21 October 2023 (UTC)


 * After writing the above, I came across a later report: - which says that "Derbassiyeh" is a town north of the eastern city of Al-Hassakeh.
 * I also note that place names in the Assyrian and Kurdish regions of Syria have been renamed into Arabic. Thus "Ad Darbasiyah" becomes Al-Dirbasiyah. Other names for this location I have found include Derbassiye, and Darbasiyah.
 * Finally I discovered this atlas: - which shows the location of "Derbassiyeh" on map B10 on page 13 as being in the same place as Al-Dirbasiyah. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 11:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Name of subject
I was curious about why the Reporters Without Borders organisation names the subject of this article as Jawan Mohamed Qatna while the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, and this Wikipedia article, calls him Jawan Mohammed Qatna, using two 'm's instead of one. Is this an English translation issue? Digging for further information, I came up with these additional reports that suggest this article needs more diversity in its sources. Having gone through this exercise I can understand why the article uses the most commonly recognizable name, "Jawan Mohammed Qatna", rather than others that appear in some sources. Even so, I think the article needs to at least mention the alternative names and include these additional sources. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 11:35, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This report: - calls the subject "Ciwan Khalaf Mohammad al-Qatna", or "Ciwan Khalaf" for short.
 * This report: - says the subject's name was "Khalaf Mohammed al-Qatna" and that he was known as "Joan".
 * However, UN sources prefer to use
 * Which probably originates with a press release from:
 * and also in the news release:
 * Even when citing the information is from Reporters Without Borders other news sources use the name "Jawan Mohammed Qatna", such as
 * Searching further, I notice that Reporters Without Borders has updated their reporting and in a follow-up article: - they refer to the subject as "Jawan Mohammed Qatna". - Cameron Dewe (talk) 07:56, 22 October 2023 (UTC)