Talk:Jay Cutler (bodybuilder)

Height
I doubt it's 5'9". That's his "Muscle tech" height used by the company to advertise. I believe he's probably about 5'7".Wikidudeman 17:32, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * His "Muscletech height"? LOL Okay. Now I've heard everything! Got any other consiparcy theories you'd like to share? Do a Google search or better yet, open a magzine (FLEX September 2003 article "The Hunt for Mr. October" - before he started appearing in Muscletech ads - will do). He's 5'9". Yankees76 19:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's a known fact that the IFBB overblows the heights of it's competitors as do the competitors themselves. Forget muscle tech. (It actually says he's 5'10") I know people who have met Cutler and he isn't 5'9". Wikidudeman 11:10, 30 December 2006

jay cutler rules. (UTC)
 * It's a known fact? No offense, but that's such a load of crap. Your IFBB conspiracy theories are good for a laugh and that's it. And wow you know people who've met Cutler - I've seen him numerous times (as recently as 3 weeks ago), and he's 5'9" - easy. You should try getting out to a show sometime. Yankees76 05:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Your abrasive tone of posting and your violation of assuming good faith casts doubt on any of your assertions. If you believe the heights published by Flex magazine or the IFBB then you're more gullible than the Republicans. Wikidudeman 19:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The how about you spare us the original research and POV and provide some verifiable sources for your claims? You can start with your "MuscleTech height claim", then provide one that says the "IFBB overblows the heights of it's competitors", and finally, provide one that says Cutler is 5'7". Otherwise this conversation is over. Yankees76 19:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, while you're at it, please review WP:LIVING, particularly the paragraph that mentions Unsourced or poorly sourced controversial (negative, positive, or just highly questionable) material  about living persons should be removed immediately from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, and user pages. Implying that Jay Cutler and the IFBB fabricates his height surely can't be in Wikipedia's best interest. Yankees76 19:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Ignoring the fact that you don't even have a source for his height. Numerous websites list his height differently. Brining into question his true height. This website for example [] lists his height as 5'10". So does this one []. This basically supports my "muscle tech height" assertion. His height fluctuates from website to website and therefore listing one single height for him isn't reliable. The fact of the matter is you don't know what his height is and any sources you do provide will be unreliable.Wikidudeman 21:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps that's why the height listed on his official website is the one used in the article. Secondly, articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy - since Flex also lists Jay as 5'9" (in a number of issues, as well as online) - matching his official site, 5'9" is considered verifiable. Showing a few instances where a third-party website (both commercial sites in the two examples above - neither of which has a declared editorial policy/editorial oversight as per WP:RS) deviates from that shows only that a few sites have errors on them. Yankees76 21:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Could we please consider the fact that many strength athletes do have a variable height, largely due to differing weights and muscle structure throughout the year and seasons! Personally, my height varies by over an inch on & off season due to my posture changing and the increased weight off season causing me to stand slightly differently. [Ace]

Toppled a reigning Mister O
Is it worth mentioning that he is the first person to defeat a reigning mister Olympia in over 20 years? The last time was when Lee Haney beat Samir Banout in 1984.

steroids
no talk here of Cutlers obvious use of drugs to attain the size he has. why? does anyone have anything on this? Keltik31 17:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Probably because it's assumed that every IFBB pro uses steroids, but we have no actual proof. Frankg 23:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Most IFBB professional bodybuilders would state outright that they use Anabolic Steroids if they were asked by someone within the bodybuilding community. Lee Priest for example is very open about his steroid use and even talks about his steroid cycles.[] Some IFBB Bodybuilders are more open about their steroid use than others are. However very rarely do they claim they are natural, because they know that they would get laughed at in the bodybuilding community. So in conclusion, We really can't say anything about his steroid use unless he actually asserts to of used steroids because of wikipedia policy on living biographies. Wikidudeman  (talk) 03:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

In his book "Bodybuilding CEO" he openly states that he does steroids. (Puresweat 04:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC))

Well, if he states that or not, it s obvious. But what he (and any pro) uses and health danger about this would be interesting. Nico92400 (talk) 10:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

suggested edit
The sentence "He claims to have most recently competed at a weight of 286 pounds and 3% bodyfat at the 2006 Mr. Olympia." would be clearer if changed to read "He most recently competed at the 2006 Mr. Olympia contest at a claimed weight of 286 pounds with 3% bodyfat." Ribonucleic 16:38, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, did that.-- Wizardman 01:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

please overlook anonymity, add category
please overlook anonymity, add category: Category:People from Worcester, Massachusetts. thnx.

Small error
It should read that in 2001 Ronnie won his 4th title, not fifth. Also, 175cm is ok since thats his official height and we Wikipedia is just an encyclopedia, but in reality he isn't over 172cm. Outsid3r 21:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Info Box
I am interested in adding an info box to jay cutlers page, but due to vandalism it is protected, can anyone help me in doing this.Angel,Isaac 01:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This Article Stinks
First of all this article stinks. There is not enough information, trivia, and facts about Cutler. Can't you guys dig up more and add it to this article. And there is not picture!!!! He is a bodybuilder, and there is no picture???
 * You're more than welcome to add to the article. --Yankees76 19:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Really? This article is locked right?
 * Propose your edits and provide your sources here in the meantime. Also, it helps if you register, and sign your posts using four tildes like this ~ . Thanks--Yankees76 02:06, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit request
--Dcooper 01:03, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. Resurgent insurgent 09:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Please update titles to include his 2nd Olympia title 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Puresweat (talk • contribs) 21:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, this needs to be done. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2007olympia.htm is one of many sources if you need. 70.53.123.202 20:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Mr. O. 2007?
Didn't he win Mr. O. 2007?

Heavynash 03:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah...er...um...just noticed the request. Sorry for being an ass.

Heavynash 03:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Stats
We need to add his bench press, squart and deadlift weights. Netrat (talk) 10:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Feel free to add them - properly sourced of course! --Yankees76 (talk) 23:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Obsessive-compulsive disorder
The article doesn't mention Jay's OCD. I don't know if it's right or wrong. But everybody seem to know it. What's the truth ?? Nico92400 (talk) 22:19, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps because every single pro bodybuilder would qualify for “OCD”, based on the criterions from the DSM-whatever-the-roman-number ? (Except maybe a few like Kevin Levrone who was said to have a relatively carefree approach to training and dieting, and yet managed to stay among the top five athletes worldwide during most of the 1990s.) But I remember reading about Cutler's regimen in magazines back in the day (around 1995, before he became one of the top dogs, at the time he was in the depth of the Mr. Olympia ranking), and it was quite amazing, even compared with the average pro bodybuilder's lifestyle : I'm not sure of the exact figures, but he said in an interview that he was drinking about 10 liters of water a day, and eating 30 whole chickens a month, plus half a beef a month... I remember wondering if that kind of crazy dedication could possibly pay off – turned out that it did pretty well. So with all (un)due respect, the DSM can go f##k itself.--Abolibibelot (talk) 23:44, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Measurements
To make any kind of comparisons in size, etc, these articles need to include standard measurements as neck, c hest, biceps, thighs, calves, etc - herkules sr 69.121.221.97 (talk) 03:28, 28 June 2011 (UTC)... *see beginning of article for jay measurements and this link for arnie measurements:  69.121.221.97 (talk) 04:28, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Metalliman, 18 September 2011
Cutler is once again listed here as having won the 2011 Mr. Olympia. Heath won the title, the information must be corrected.

Metalliman (talk) 10:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ - thanks for pointing it out. Jay  Σεβαστός discuss  10:26, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

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« Mr. Olympia Rome »
What is « Mr. Olympia Rome » in 2000 ? As far as I know there's only one Mr. Olympia contest every year, and it has consistently taken place in Las Vegas since the end of the 1990s.--Abolibibelot (talk) 00:09, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Age
Someone please proof the article. Age is wrong 47.204.134.23 (talk) 13:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC)