Talk:Jay and the Americans

All this ne?
What's the ne with names for? Airproofing (talk) 23:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Agree. Should be "born" instead of né. As far as I know, Kenny Vance did not change his family name after marriage, and his wife did not bear the name Vance anyway.Pokokichi2 (talk) 02:42, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Aerosmith recorded "She Cried?"
Aerosmith used the phrase "she cried" in the song "Uncle Salty", and had a hit song called "Cryin'", but when did they record "She Cried" by Jay and the Americans? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.35.140 (talk) 00:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Aerosmith recorded "She Cried"?
Writer is confusing She Cried with Remember (Walking In The Sand), which was another Shangrilas single. "Remember" was recorded by Aerosmith, but not "She Cried".Sandybeach2 (talk) 01:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

What does this mean?
From the article:

"Unfortunately and unknowingly, many fans of Jay and The Americans are attending shows featuring Jay Black, who is no longer allowed to use the name "Jay and The Americans"."

Why is that unfortunate? I don't get what the point is here. Santa Claus of the Future (talk) 20:19, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Name
Re: "They auditioned for Leiber and Stoller, who gave the group its name. In the manner of the time, Leiber and Stoller wanted to extend this to 'Binky Jones and the Americans,' but Traynor declined to be known as Binky Jones his whole career."

Extend what? How is this in the manner of the time? TheScotch (talk) 08:41, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


 * It was very typical of the time to name a group in the form "So-and-so and the Such-and-such", featuring for the most part the frontman (although the Paul Revere was not the frontman of the Raiders). Buddy Holly and the Crickets, etc. Wschart (talk) 17:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Steely Dan
Re: "The group split in 1973.[2] All of the members moved on to solo musical careers, with the exception of Jay Black, who continued to perform as 'Jay and the Americans.' Black continued until the 1980s with a variety of musicians, at one point briefly including the young Walter Becker and Donald Fagen (of later Steely Dan fame) on backup bass guitar and electric organ.""

The chronology is off here. Steely Dan's first album was released in 1972. Thus if Jay and the Americans did indeed disband in 1973, then Becker and Fagen would have had to tour with them before the disbanding. [Edit] According to Steely Dan's official website, Becker and Fagen joined Jay and the American's touring band in 1970. TheScotch (talk) 08:51, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Becker and Fagen did a brief stint with the band. Fagen as Tristan Fabriani on keyboards and Becker would use the alias of Gus Mahler. I also noticed that they are not mentioned as past members of the band. JHvW 13:16, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

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Avery Fisher Hall performance
I haven't been able to document it yet, but I personally saw a performance billed as "Jay Black and The Americans" as part of a charity fund raiser (1994-1997 range) at Avery Fisher Hall. The charity was The Bialystoker Home for the Elderly, and Jay said from the stage that he was there because his grandmother was from Bialystok. I particularly remember the performance because one of the trumpeters was seamlessly replaced in the course of a single number, during a trumpet part! I think he had to leave because the show ran late, like all "benefits." Stagehand (talk) 13:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

There Goes My Baby
"There Goes My Baby" never reached the Hot 100 or even Bubbled Under for the act. So that entry shouldn't show a peak position of #90.98.149.97.245 (talk) 21:48, 3 June 2022 (UTC)98.149.97.245 (talk) 06:46, 26 November 2021 (UTC)