Talk:Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres

Untitled
Rewording and much more info needed.

Baigneuse de Valpinçon
An editor added Image:Ingres baigneuse valpincon.jpg but I removed it because (1) the photo is blurry &mdash; if we want this picture it would be better to use a scan like ; (2) the article has plenty of pictures, all of which are mentioned in the text; (3) La Grande baigneuse is not mentioned in the text. Gdr 17:47, 2005 May 22 (UTC)

There are two different dates listed for his death!
 * No, a baigneuse is a "she"!--BillFlis 01:39, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Gallery?
The idea of a Gallery collecting the artist's miscellaneous works is a nice one, but some of those that have been moved there are mentioned within the article. Should some of this be reverted? --BillFlis 15:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Ingres Paper?
Artists use something called "Ingres paper". A sort of yellowish paper to sketch portraits etc. What is it exactly and how does it relate to Ingres? Perhaps one of the editors here knows the full story and can add it to the article?

Uffe 13:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It's a rather odd marketing term for a type of paper that Ingres never used (an exception or 2 may exist but I can't recall seeing one). "Ingres paper" is a laid paper, meaning it has  a heavy texture of parallel lines left by the manufacturing process. It's great for charcoal, chalk, & pastel because it holds lots of pigment & imparts a texture to the drawing. Ingres himself used a wove paper with a smooth but slightly toothy surface that took fine graphite lines nicely --he  would have gone nuts trying to make those portrait drawing on Ingres paper. I think your idea is a good one & I'll try adding a line about this in the article. Ewulp 01:38, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Viotti concerto
The detail of the young Ingres playing the Viotti concerto in Toulouse at age 12 may be apocryphal; writing in 1926, Robert Allerton Parker  ("Ingres: The Apostle of Draughtsmanship", International Studio 83 (March 1926) p. 24) already sounds skeptical: "There is a legend to the effect that at the age of twelve Dominique performed a Viotti concerto in the theater at Toulouse, in which he was a member of the orchestra." While all sources agree he performed with the Toulouse orchestra 1794-1796, the Viotti story doesn't appear in any modern account I've checked, and may be a relic of the Amaury-Duval book (1878). Ewulp 06:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

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Photograph of the subject
The memoir Musical Memories by composer Camille Saint-Saëns, now public-domain, contains an apparent photograph of Ingres as an illustration. The book is available as Project Gutenberg etext #16459. This might be a good addition to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magnificat (talk • contribs) 13:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Lead
Very encouraged by recent edits, but to highlight as a priority, if anybody has the interest; the lead "A man profoundly respectful of the past, he assumed the role of a guardian of academic orthodoxy against the ascendant Romantic style represented by his nemesis, Eugène Delacroix. His exemplars, he once explained, were". This is not very good; its not 1911 anymore. Help! Ceoil (talk) 02:07, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The lead was overdue for a rewrite; too short if nothing else. I tried making some tweaks & adding a few paragraphs. Ewulp (talk) 09:03, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Very nicely done. Ceoil (talk) 14:13, 8 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Great stuff in recent edits! These are the kind of articles that should be our priority, but too rarely are. Well done all! Johnbod (talk) 03:53, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Jupiter and Thetis
I deleted a line sourced to the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica regarding appreciation by Delacroix and the Romantic school for Jupiter and Thetis. Delacroix's known opinions of Ingres are mostly disparaging; for years I've been looking for a modern source that confirms EB but without success. In any case, Delacroix was only 13 years old when the painting was exhibited in the Salon of 1811. Andrew Shelton has written something about the reception of The Apotheosis of Homer that may be relevant: "Here again one must resist the persistent myth that it was the 'Romantics' who hailed Ingres's painting as much as, if not more than, the 'classicists'. This notion seems to have grown out of the isolated remark made by the critic Arnold Scheffer, brother of the allegedly 'Romantic' Ary, that Ingres was most viciously criticized by those who found his work to be insufficiently imitative of the Greeks (that is, the hard-core followers of David), whereas 'the painters of the so-called Romantic school applauded this new success by a man who sometimes treated them with unfair harshness'." (1999, Portraits by Ingres: Image of an Epoch, p. 289). Ewulp (talk) 05:52, 16 January 2020 (UTC)