Talk:Jean de Lattre de Tassigny

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 * "When war was declared in 1939, he became the youngest general in French history"

What ? He was 50 then; Hoche was made a general at 25 ! Rama 09:40, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Why is there no picture? There must be some record of him? ````Jtflood1976

British Pathé news report
this is about the Battle of the Day River and the death of Jean de Lattre de Tassigny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUsZHrMB-O4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Man74 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Vietnam section lacks neutrality
The section covering the general's time in Vietnam seems laudatory and fails to be objective. For example, the idea that he was respected by his enemy seems highly unlikely. Additionally, there is no context given. Vietnam was fighting for independence as a colony under the control of France. My understanding of that Franco-Vietnam conflict is that France got their asses handed to them and even with Eisenhower covering 80% of the cost of the conflict. The Vietnam war is an important historical event and I feel like this article is getting the history wrong by coming across as pro-France propaganda. Brad Thomas Hanks (talk) 03:46, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

This section of the article seems to me carefully referenced. As such, I don't see any problem concerning both sides respecting him. However, it is true that it could require further referencing.

Concerning the part your describing as propaganda, I don't see it for one bit. All the article is mentionning are the victories de Lattre got, and if you know a little bit about the first Vietnam War and its first part, it's consistent with the progress made by the French Army at this point. It is true that there is no mention of a single defeat, and that deserves some research.

But in the end, as far as this section is concerned, it seems factual and I don't really see the propaganda you are referencing to. A second referencing could be interesting to check if nothing was left over. CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 04:53, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

I think you point out the specifics of what I was feeling generally, namely the defeats should be added to the account but looks like he died too quickly to be credited with leading the french into a morass.

From the NYT, "Stunned, France sent out its most distinguished general: Jean de Lattre de Tassigny. Giap gallantly announced that the Vietminh now faced an adversary worthy of its steel. But de Lattre died of cancer amid plans for an ambitious French offensive."

Thanks! Brad Thomas Hanks (talk) 07:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Piping of France to "French Third Republic" etc
I do not link the infobox piping "France" to "French Fourth Republic" and "French Fourth Republic". MOS:OVERLINK says we do not link present-day countries. WP:EASTEREGG says we do not use these sort of piped links. The Third and Fourth Republics were not different countries, just system of government adopted in France for a time. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  18:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Agreed - these should be removed. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:15, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Likewise. Mathglot (talk) 01:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Here, I agree, but I wouldn't try to stretch this outside this article as you've mischaracterized MOS:OVERLINK which actually says not to link major countries, Hawkeye. I usually link to significant differences in government like the Crown Colony of Malta, etc., as I would strongly bet that that the average reader has no idea about current places having a colonial past.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 07:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I disagree. They were two distinct political entities separated by Vichy France and the German occupation. If someone was born in the German Empire but passed away in the Weimar Republic those hyperlinks would exist. That's my take.3Kingdoms (talk) 14:54, 22 January 2024 (UTC)