Talk:Jeff Berry (mixologist)

Berry's tiki mug
Berry has had a tiki mug designed in his visage by renowned tiki carver Bosko (who would qualify for a wiki article himself). I don't know much more about it than that, but I don't believe it is too common for everyone to get a mug made to look like them. The subheading is on Berry's impact on tiki, so it seems appropriate. The primary source website is an online catalog of all tiki mugs and is the best way to provide a source for the existence of any tiki mug; it is not intended in any way to generate sales for the mug as one editor is apparently concluding. The following is the content that another editor was insistent on removing without wanting to discuss it further even as it was being written. I have placed it here for others to consider:

Berry's visage has been the source for a tiki mug made in his Beachbum image, as designed by renowned tiki carver Bosko. Nicholas Nastrusnic (talk) 02:56, 23 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Seriously. It's a mug. And your main source is a website called ooga-mooga. Drmies (talk) 02:57, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi friend, yes, its a mug designed by Bosko. The documentary on Bosko (in the citations) is very interesting and is something you might enjoy. In regards to Ooga Mooga, despite its name it is the best source anywhere in print or online regarding mugs. Regarding its name, we are talking about Tiki here. With drinks named the Zombie, Shark's Tooth, and Cobra's Fang, yes, such a website is not going to be called the Tiffany Auction House Drink Vessel Catalog and be printed as an insert to the weekend edition of the WSJ. Cheers.Nicholas Nastrusnic (talk) 04:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Nicholas, I'm going to post at my talk page - where we are discussing Wikipedia policies generally - an explanation about Reliable Sources. Here I will just say this about Ooga Mooga: take a look at the about page. Ooga-Mooga was started in 2005, and is a subscription-based website that allows mug collectors to store information about their collections, trade and sell mugs, and share their collections with others. New mugs are being added to Ooga-Mooga continually. That is a site specifically for BUYING AND SELLING mugs and showing off personal collections. Anyone can upload information about a mug and say anything they want about it. Sure it has lots of information about mugs, but there is no control at all over the accuracy of the information. It is the exact opposite of a Reliable Source. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:34, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
 * BTW the same thing is true of IMDb. That is not considered a Reliable Source by Wikipedia, because people can post anything they want, post about themselves if they want. For that matter Wikipedia itself is not considered a Reliable Source, because (again) anyone can edit it. We have a lot of volunteers here trying to keep it accurate, but still, Wikipedia is not acceptable as a source for information in articles. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:40, 23 March 2019 (UTC)