Talk:Jennifer Connelly/Archive 1

Photo/tech support needed
I need someone's help. The lead off picture needs to be a still from a recent film or a more recent reference than the current pic. I can find pics but can't get them to save as JPEGS (keep saving as BMPs which Wikipedia won't accept).
 * Thanks to everyone who helped with the addition of a recent screen shot from Jennifer's work.
 * That would be me. Your welcome. I saw your message and I have HoSaF lying around, so I thought I would go for it. I will see if I can't get a few more things together about her. --None-of-the-Above 13:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Photo/tech support needed
I need someone's help. The lead off picture needs to be a still from a recent film or a more recent reference than the current pic. I can find pics but can't get them to save as JPEGS (keep saving as BMPs which Wikipedia won't accept).
 * Thanks to everyone who helped with the addition of a recent screen shot from Jennifer's work.
 * That would be me. Your welcome. I saw your message and I have HoSaF lying around, so I thought I would go for it. I will see if I can't get a few more things together about her. --None-of-the-Above 13:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

New Look For Page
Hey, cool new organization on the page. Good job!


 * Thanks. I'm trying to do the same for a large number of actors and the like. I think it makes the articles look a lot better.Vulturell 18:45, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


 * It sure does, well done! Bergsten 19:19, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

AD III
I forgot to mention this in my edit. House of Sand and Fog is by Andre Dubus III, not his father, who is Andre Dubus (the II, presumably!) I've been meaning to fix that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.141.113.171 (talk • contribs) 14:47, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Polyglot?
Why is Jennifer included in the polyglots category but there is no mention in the article of any ability to speak several languages? Can someone either verify that she is, in fact, a polyglot, or remove that category? Thanks. ---Charles 04:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I read somewhere that she can speak English, Italian (and at least one of French or Spanish, I can't remember). I haven't searched for a reference though.  Can anyone find one? Davemcarlson 00:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually just found these bios saying that she speaks fluent Italian and French, and some Japanese (she recorded a single in Japanese, I know) , but none of these sources seems entirely credible, and they could have borrowed from one another.  Do you think it's worth putting this information in the article, or should we hold out until better sources become available? Davemcarlson 00:07, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I would definitely have a problem with using any of those as sources for the polyglot claim. The IMDB is the closest to being notable, but very little of the information in the biographies there is sourced, and may have originated on gossip sites like Celebrity Sun.  At this point, I think we have to hold off.  I will do some looking and see if I can find anything reputable.  Thanks, Dave. ---Charles 01:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: mag cover
I deleted the cover I uploaded from TIME, I was pretty sure that was her, but maybe not! I've jsut replaced it in the article with an Esquire cover. Although I've been around a while, haven't dealt with Images extensively, hopefully this one will do better! — xaosflux  Talk  15:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

picture
I really am quite sure that isnt her in the picture Adamshappy 22:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * If you are refernig to the Esquire cover, pleas check Esquire's people on covers listing. — xaosflux  Talk  01:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

figure
Having long been known more for her curvy figure than her considerable talents, Connelly had drastically slimmed down by the dawn of the 21st century, opening up a new career for her.

Seriously, what the hell? Apathetic 19:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, that is utter rubbish. It is unsourced and sounds stupid. ---Charles 19:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit, Yamla. ---Charles 20:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. The sentence was amusing but out of place.  --Yamla 20:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, sort of immaturely amusing, but certainly out of place. ---Charles 20:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Jennifer Connelly had mammaplasty reduction sometime in 1993 or 1994. It's not just her slimming down, she had breast reduction surgery. Stop deleting this, it's not vandalism. - Jasgbro


 * It is vandalism unless you can find a reliable citation that she had this done and that it was done so she would be taken more seriously as an actor. Remember, it is your responsibility to ensure the information you add is verifiable.  --Yamla 14:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Many actresses will never PUBLICLY admit they had breast surgery, either to enlarge or reduce, so demanding proof if it hasn't been supplied by the actress in question herself is pretty much a moot point. Most people assume the surgery took place because in a 3 year period she went from this:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7352/jenniferconnelly5iz2.jpg

to this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/36558000/jpg/_36558277_conne_150.jpg

It's true she got VERY thin and that could have an effect, but many guys who loved her fuller figure refuse to believe the size of her breasts would shrink that dramatically because she lost weight. It very well could be but there will always be rumors about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.212.137 (talk) 01:38, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair use of Image:Esquire Jennifer Connelly 1991 8.jpg
I've moved this image out of the infobox and back as an article thumbnail. In the article fair use is being asserted by virute of illustrating an article, or part of an article, which specifically describes the issue in question or its cover. To this end I believe that fair use is asseted, however this is not an approriate picture for the infobox, as it the info box is general to the subject. Comments? — xaosflux  Talk  21:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with your logic, and the picture move. ---Charles 21:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I concur. --Yamla 21:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The Jennifer Connelly Pier Shot
Can someone smarter than me please confirm that Dark City, Requiem For A Dream, and House Of Sand And Fog do feature virtually the same shot of Mrs. Connelly standing on an ocean pier? If my memory serves me correctly, three different directors have, within half a decade of each other, placed this actress on an ocean pier to further their own dramatic ends, and it is quite a cinematic quirk. Does it deserve mention anywhere on Wikipedia?
 * Only if you can demonstrate that doing so does not violate our No original research policy, by citing a reliable source outside of Wikipedia that has already made such a connection. Wikipedia is not the place for publishing new things.  Please publish any new analyses that you have of Connelly and these films in a book or a paper. Uncle G 13:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

New Look For Page
Hey, cool new organization on the page. Good job!


 * Thanks. I'm trying to do the same for a large number of actors and the like. I think it makes the articles look a lot better.Vulturell 18:45, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


 * It sure does, well done! Bergsten 19:19, 16 November 2005 (UTC)


 * This was noted here http://cinema-review.com/lists/000008/index.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.100.17.149 (talk) 22:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * She has mentioned this in interviews, so it shouldn't be that hard to find an external reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.62.12.196 (talk) 10:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Little Children
This article states that her role in Little Children was reduced from it's importance in the book. I've seen the movie and read the book and the roles are virtually the same. So I think someone should remove that line.

Personal Info
I heard in a recent interview - Inside the Actors Studio, I think - that Jennifer is an avid mountain climber, and has trekked in, among others,  the Himalayas and the Andes. Can anyone expound on this? Is it worth including in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.125.45 (talk • contribs)

There is nothing in the article about the fact she attended Yale as a freshman and sophmore before transferring to Stanford her junior year. Although she did not get her degree, the fact she had 3 years of education at two of the top colleges in the country is significant. I don't know how to edit the main page or I'd add this info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.212.137 (talk) 01:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Middle name
This site lists her middle name as "Ann" - - a few others on the net do as well. Does anyone know which of Ann or Lynn is the correct name? Rito Revollto 22:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

POV check: Notable roles
It's ABSURD that in this article there are some notable roles mentioned and among these there isn't the Jennifer's role in Phenomena. It is mentioned in the article just as a less important part compared to the others. And this is POV.

Gerbnacious G and the Gerbil of Destiny
While it's completely possible that Tenacious D took this title for Pick of Destiny, I find it kind of unlikely given that Google only turns up three results -- and one of them is this page. Is this legit? 76.209.86.11 (talk) 21:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Right shoulder
Connelly was wearing some contraption on her right shoulder on Letterman Monday night. Some sort of injury, like rotator cuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.235.67.132 (talk) 05:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Jennifer Connelly's Mother's Name
Jennifer Connelly's mother spells her name Ilene, not Eileen. I know for a fact as she and Jerry (Jennifer's dad) were the first tenants in my grandmother's house in 1968. They were lovely people and Jerry was a very fine artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.44.226 (talk) 21:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough - this "People Magazine" profile spells her mother's name "Ilene", so I'll use that as a source to change it. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 07:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

American Roman Catholics
She is listed in this category. But is their any source that can prove this claim? The article says that one of her parents was jewish and the other one was catholic. Jennifer Connelly can follow either one or none of those religions, but not both. Since being jewish, at least in the USA, is not only a religion but also an ethnic ancestry, it makes sense to put her in the "American Jews"-category, but being catholic is strictly a religion and not about heritage. If she doesn't profess catholicism, or this is not backed up by a source, she should be deleted from this category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.97.22 (talk) 20:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the listing was based off this comment by Connelly: "Ultimately I’m an Irish Catholic Jew. I’m riddled with guilt!". I kind of doubt the comment was in reference to religious faith - it was almost certainly just in reference to her background. On her appearance on Inside the Actors Studio, Connelly stated that neither of her parents practiced the religions they were born into. The implication was that she didn't, either. All Hallow&#39;s (talk) 02:38, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Shall we change it than? Remove her from the category? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.67.193 (talk) 08:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, if you want to. All Hallow&#39;s (talk) 09:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm putting the category back in since she has mentioned in other magazine articles and in interviews that she celebrated Christmas. You don't have to be super religious to still identify as Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, etc. I know people who don't go to Mass or church, but still call themselves Catholic. It's also good for people to not get confused by the American Jews category on it's own, implying she practices Jewish customs (cultural jew). The actress has not mentioned that, just that one parent was Jewish or half-Jewish. So having both categories supports both parts of her heritage.--CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 21:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem here is that identifying someone as Jewish has nothing to do with religion or practicing Jewish customs, at least in the way the category works here, it is completely related to ethnic heritage. On the other hand, we do not include someone in a category identifying their religious status unless the article can verifiably source that the person is in fact Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, etc., in practice. Catholicism is not an ethnic heritage and since the article does not identify her as a member of a Catholic church, we do not include it. There's a wide difference between heritage and religion. The vast majority of America celebrates Christmas, but not specifically as a religious holiday. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * American Catholics often self-identify in the same way ethnic groups do, regardless of level of religious practice - as you say of Jewish, "a heritage". If categories are defined based on ethnicities, Catholic should be considered for Connelly, assuming a reliable source can be found that she identifies this way, beyond the aforementioned quip.  If Wikipedia is defining ethnic categories based on tracing genetic strings, then there are some serious problems that need to be discussed. The Frog (unable to sign in at this location)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.33.15.29 (talk) 20:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Catholic does not imply any ethnic meaning. Being a Jew has strong ethnic relations. Being a Catholic does not. You can leave the Catholic church and not have any ties to it. If you are Jewish and leave Judaism, you are still considered a Jew. If you leave the Catholic Church, you are no longer Catholic (unless you calllapsed Catholic, but that's complicating the issue) It's a religious term used even by those who are only "slightly religious," "lapsed," and "believing but not actively following." Still... Despite the fact that she's probably Catholic, I'm not sure if she fits, as people in the category are strangely taken out of it quickly because it's "not a notable part of their lives" or whatever the category says (either in the Christian or Roman Catholic description of the religion category). If I remember correctly, the source given above isn't the only place she's talked about her religious/heritage, and I believe Paul Bettany mentioned her beliefs being opposed to his when being interviewed about his role as Darwin (I know, please don't laugh, he doesn't fit the part in the slightest and doesn't even fit the part of the character Priest... but I'm getting off topic). Anyways, it's probably best to leave the category out. It's not that big of a deal whether she's in the category or not, I think. 98.198.83.12 (talk) 05:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Connelly stated on Inside the Actors Studio that neither of her parents practiced the religions they were born into, so she probably wasn't raised Catholic (or anything else). All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 05:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

AD III
I forgot to mention this in my edit. House of Sand and Fog is by Andre Dubus III, not his father, who is Andre Dubus (the II, presumably!) I've been meaning to fix that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.141.113.171 (talk • contribs) 14:47, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Polyglot?
Why is Jennifer included in the polyglots category but there is no mention in the article of any ability to speak several languages? Can someone either verify that she is, in fact, a polyglot, or remove that category? Thanks. ---Charles 04:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I read somewhere that she can speak English, Italian (and at least one of French or Spanish, I can't remember). I haven't searched for a reference though.  Can anyone find one? Davemcarlson 00:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually just found these bios saying that she speaks fluent Italian and French, and some Japanese (she recorded a single in Japanese, I know) , but none of these sources seems entirely credible, and they could have borrowed from one another.  Do you think it's worth putting this information in the article, or should we hold out until better sources become available? Davemcarlson 00:07, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I would definitely have a problem with using any of those as sources for the polyglot claim. The IMDB is the closest to being notable, but very little of the information in the biographies there is sourced, and may have originated on gossip sites like Celebrity Sun.  At this point, I think we have to hold off.  I will do some looking and see if I can find anything reputable.  Thanks, Dave. ---Charles 01:01, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: mag cover
I deleted the cover I uploaded from TIME, I was pretty sure that was her, but maybe not! I've jsut replaced it in the article with an Esquire cover. Although I've been around a while, haven't dealt with Images extensively, hopefully this one will do better! — xaosflux  Talk  15:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

picture
I really am quite sure that isnt her in the picture Adamshappy 22:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * If you are refernig to the Esquire cover, pleas check Esquire's people on covers listing. — xaosflux  Talk  01:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

figure
Having long been known more for her curvy figure than her considerable talents, Connelly had drastically slimmed down by the dawn of the 21st century, opening up a new career for her.

Seriously, what the hell? Apathetic 19:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, that is utter rubbish. It is unsourced and sounds stupid. ---Charles 19:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit, Yamla. ---Charles 20:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. The sentence was amusing but out of place.  --Yamla 20:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, sort of immaturely amusing, but certainly out of place. ---Charles 20:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Jennifer Connelly had mammaplasty reduction sometime in 1993 or 1994. It's not just her slimming down, she had breast reduction surgery. Stop deleting this, it's not vandalism. - Jasgbro


 * It is vandalism unless you can find a reliable citation that she had this done and that it was done so she would be taken more seriously as an actor. Remember, it is your responsibility to ensure the information you add is verifiable.  --Yamla 14:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Many actresses will never PUBLICLY admit they had breast surgery, either to enlarge or reduce, so demanding proof if it hasn't been supplied by the actress in question herself is pretty much a moot point. Most people assume the surgery took place because in a 3 year period she went from this:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7352/jenniferconnelly5iz2.jpg

to this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/36558000/jpg/_36558277_conne_150.jpg

It's true she got VERY thin and that could have an effect, but many guys who loved her fuller figure refuse to believe the size of her breasts would shrink that dramatically because she lost weight. It very well could be but there will always be rumors about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.212.137 (talk) 01:38, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair use of Image:Esquire Jennifer Connelly 1991 8.jpg
I've moved this image out of the infobox and back as an article thumbnail. In the article fair use is being asserted by virute of illustrating an article, or part of an article, which specifically describes the issue in question or its cover. To this end I believe that fair use is asseted, however this is not an approriate picture for the infobox, as it the info box is general to the subject. Comments? — xaosflux  Talk  21:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with your logic, and the picture move. ---Charles 21:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I concur. --Yamla 21:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The Jennifer Connelly Pier Shot
Can someone smarter than me please confirm that Dark City, Requiem For A Dream, and House Of Sand And Fog do feature virtually the same shot of Mrs. Connelly standing on an ocean pier? If my memory serves me correctly, three different directors have, within half a decade of each other, placed this actress on an ocean pier to further their own dramatic ends, and it is quite a cinematic quirk. Does it deserve mention anywhere on Wikipedia?
 * Only if you can demonstrate that doing so does not violate our No original research policy, by citing a reliable source outside of Wikipedia that has already made such a connection. Wikipedia is not the place for publishing new things.  Please publish any new analyses that you have of Connelly and these films in a book or a paper. Uncle G 13:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * This was noted here http://cinema-review.com/lists/000008/index.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.100.17.149 (talk) 22:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * She has mentioned this in interviews, so it shouldn't be that hard to find an external reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.62.12.196 (talk) 10:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Little Children
This article states that her role in Little Children was reduced from it's importance in the book. I've seen the movie and read the book and the roles are virtually the same. So I think someone should remove that line.

Personal Info
I heard in a recent interview - Inside the Actors Studio, I think - that Jennifer is an avid mountain climber, and has trekked in, among others,  the Himalayas and the Andes. Can anyone expound on this? Is it worth including in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.125.45 (talk • contribs)

There is nothing in the article about the fact she attended Yale as a freshman and sophmore before transferring to Stanford her junior year. Although she did not get her degree, the fact she had 3 years of education at two of the top colleges in the country is significant. I don't know how to edit the main page or I'd add this info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.240.212.137 (talk) 01:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Middle name
This site lists her middle name as "Ann" - - a few others on the net do as well. Does anyone know which of Ann or Lynn is the correct name? Rito Revollto 22:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

POV check: Notable roles
It's ABSURD that in this article there are some notable roles mentioned and among these there isn't the Jennifer's role in Phenomena. It is mentioned in the article just as a less important part compared to the others. And this is POV.

Gerbnacious G and the Gerbil of Destiny
While it's completely possible that Tenacious D took this title for Pick of Destiny, I find it kind of unlikely given that Google only turns up three results -- and one of them is this page. Is this legit? 76.209.86.11 (talk) 21:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Right shoulder
Connelly was wearing some contraption on her right shoulder on Letterman Monday night. Some sort of injury, like rotator cuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.235.67.132 (talk) 05:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Jennifer Connelly's Mother's Name
Jennifer Connelly's mother spells her name Ilene, not Eileen. I know for a fact as she and Jerry (Jennifer's dad) were the first tenants in my grandmother's house in 1968. They were lovely people and Jerry was a very fine artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.44.226 (talk) 21:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough - this "People Magazine" profile spells her mother's name "Ilene", so I'll use that as a source to change it. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 07:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

American Roman Catholics
She is listed in this category. But is their any source that can prove this claim? The article says that one of her parents was jewish and the other one was catholic. Jennifer Connelly can follow either one or none of those religions, but not both. Since being jewish, at least in the USA, is not only a religion but also an ethnic ancestry, it makes sense to put her in the "American Jews"-category, but being catholic is strictly a religion and not about heritage. If she doesn't profess catholicism, or this is not backed up by a source, she should be deleted from this category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.97.22 (talk) 20:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the listing was based off this comment by Connelly: "Ultimately I’m an Irish Catholic Jew. I’m riddled with guilt!". I kind of doubt the comment was in reference to religious faith - it was almost certainly just in reference to her background. On her appearance on Inside the Actors Studio, Connelly stated that neither of her parents practiced the religions they were born into. The implication was that she didn't, either. All Hallow&#39;s (talk) 02:38, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Shall we change it than? Remove her from the category? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.67.193 (talk) 08:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, if you want to. All Hallow&#39;s (talk) 09:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm putting the category back in since she has mentioned in other magazine articles and in interviews that she celebrated Christmas. You don't have to be super religious to still identify as Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, etc. I know people who don't go to Mass or church, but still call themselves Catholic. It's also good for people to not get confused by the American Jews category on it's own, implying she practices Jewish customs (cultural jew). The actress has not mentioned that, just that one parent was Jewish or half-Jewish. So having both categories supports both parts of her heritage.--CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 21:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem here is that identifying someone as Jewish has nothing to do with religion or practicing Jewish customs, at least in the way the category works here, it is completely related to ethnic heritage. On the other hand, we do not include someone in a category identifying their religious status unless the article can verifiably source that the person is in fact Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, etc., in practice. Catholicism is not an ethnic heritage and since the article does not identify her as a member of a Catholic church, we do not include it. There's a wide difference between heritage and religion. The vast majority of America celebrates Christmas, but not specifically as a religious holiday. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * American Catholics often self-identify in the same way ethnic groups do, regardless of level of religious practice - as you say of Jewish, "a heritage". If categories are defined based on ethnicities, Catholic should be considered for Connelly, assuming a reliable source can be found that she identifies this way, beyond the aforementioned quip.  If Wikipedia is defining ethnic categories based on tracing genetic strings, then there are some serious problems that need to be discussed. The Frog (unable to sign in at this location)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.33.15.29 (talk) 20:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Hello, The music video "Space Age Love Song" by Flock of Seagulls (1982) mentioned under Jennifer Connelly's music videos is not an official video. Someone obviously made a video using the song and clips from her 1991 movie Career Opportunities. Two people posted this same video to Youtube and both seem to have been watched much more than the official video -hence the confusion. I checked whether the song was part of the soundtrack of the movie and re-released again. The answer is negative. After I discussed it in Biographies of Living Persons last week, the year of the video has been changed from 1982 to 1989. But it should be removed. I'll remove it and wanted to let you know about the reasoning. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erdem Lemon (talk • contribs) 22:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)