Talk:Jennifer Zeng

Notability
IS this lady notable?Simonm223 (talk) 15:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Separate from her book, I honestly am not altogether sure. Her book is definitely notable, and, considering it is basically autobiographical, the only difference in content between an article on her book and her life would be additional coverage about things she did after the book was published. Considering that such actions are at least referenced, and she is, according to a blog someone has out there, working on video with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation about Chinese work prisons, I'm going to assume it makes more sense to have the article about her as a person than about the book. I do acknowledge that is a bit of a judgement call. John Carter (talk) 15:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Writing an autobiography doesn't immediately make one notable. I am doubtful if this lady counts as a notable individual.Simonm223 (talk) 21:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As I said earlier, the autobiography book pretty much clearly qualifies as notable as per WP:BK. The difference between an article about a book about a person written by that person and an article about the person, in terms of content, is I think pretty much minimal, and the book's title is already a redirect to this article. The tape of the interview with ABC, and another interview here, three pieces on Google news (none in English, so I'm not really sure what they say here), and a few references in google books, possibly "trivial", although I don't know the exact definition of that term here could be seen as being at least an indication of her personal notability. You would be free to propose it for deletion, of course, but if that were the case I would of course move the content relevant to the book to the existing redirect to that subject. John Carter (talk) 21:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Citizenship
She "received refugee status" according to ABC in 2001. Another site here says 2003. I cannot myself attest to the reliability of the second source, however. As a citizen of the US, I cannot myself attest as to whether receiving refugee status and being a citizen are equivalents in Australia. John Carter (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know of any country where refugee would equal citizen (and I see no such mention in Australian nationality law). My edit summary primarily referred to her inclusions in the "Australian something" categories, when she is most likely that she is not (not yet?) a citizen. She is/was however a citizen of the PRC. I therefore "tuned" the categories accordingly. Thanks. Dahn (talk) 16:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Material
If anyone has a copy of the book to use as a source for this article, it would be very welcome. I do have additional material from the reviews which I theoretically could, potentially, add, but that material has a disadvantage of presenting what might appear to be differing material, possibly regarding the same general subject or period, without establishing whether what they are doing is referencing different events or different aspects of the same events, and that makes it hard to try to create any sort of coherent coverage of that material. John Carter (talk) 20:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)