Talk:Jenny Brown (feminist)

Removal of Cleanup-PR Tag

 * User:DGG: What can I do to address your Cleanup-PR concerns? Brown is clearly noteworthy. "'Jenny Brown' + feminist" has 36,100 hits on Google. She is a leader of a notable group, National Women's Liberation, which deserves its own page (my next project). See 67,200 hits on Google. Her recently publish book, Birth Strike, has generated significant interest. See 28,600 hits on Google. Her activism with the Plan B issue led to federal court litigation, in which she was a plaintiff, and which resulted in two published court rulings. "Tummino v. Hamburg" has 1,500 hits on Google. There is some additional information on the page that wouldn't be noteworthy on its own, but is noteworthy in the context of biographical information about a notable person. Each factual assertion on the page is cited. And it is written in good faith, in neutral tone, by someone (me) who has no direct connection to the subject. Please explain your concerns so that they can be addressed and the tag can be removed.--Elindstr (talk) 17:58, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


 * the tag isn't exact, but it's the closest we have; the meaning I meant to convey is that it sounded too much like advocacy for her views. The tone to be is sympathetic. It's very difficult ot to write in a sympathetic tone when you're writing about something that you know is good. The  way to do it is to keep to plain facts, not the person's opinions.


 * But I see there's a bigger problem. Upon re-reading the article just now, and reading each ref, I added a tag about notability, because, as an author,  2 of her 4 books were published by her own organizations; the other two are both published in 2019, and only Birth Strike is in any world cat libraries. If she's notable as an author, reviews are needed to show it. As an activist, where the standard is WP:GNG, almost all the refs are her own publications or blurbs or friendly interviews about her in publications she writes for .  The only ones that are not is a tv news story that does not mention her, and a ref to a court case in which she was one of many plaintiffs.  Ghits do not show notability for anyone or anything. National Women's Liberation might well be  notable -- I think an article on it might work-- see . --  but the notability of an organization does in any case not necessarily mean the founder is notable .   DGG ( talk ) 04:25, 22 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Can you find book reviews for Birth Strike?  DGG ( talk ) 04:25, 22 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I added more citations demonstrating notoriety. And while I disagree that the original draft was written with any advocacy, I further sterilized some of the language. Please remove the page issues tags. Elindstr (talk) 00:30, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * User:DGG: After your critical tagging, I went overboard adding additional citations to prove notoriety to you. These citations are distracting from the page. So I'm moving the Birth Strike references off the main page, but preserving them here if someone questions notoriety or wants to use the citations in the future.         Elindstr (talk) 01:45, 27 June 2019 (UTC)