Talk:Jerry West

Magic Johnson
Removing this: "In 1980, the Lakers won the NBA Championship led by Magic Johnson, who became the first and only rookie to be named the NBA Finals MVP."

Doesn't seem to have anything to do with Jerry West. 65.88.178.10 20:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Most likely a Magic Johnson fanatic. If you made a section called "other NBA legends," that would be perfect. You can make a links section for that. ~Regulus.

Name
In his book Mr. Clutch West reports his name as "Jerry Alan West". I imagine that if his name were Jerome he'd be the first to know about it. RandyBeegle 05:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

School
"Due to West's tremendous play in the state championship, the school of East Bank changes its name every year on that same day to West Bank."

East Bank doesn't exist anymore. I'm considering the best way to keep this neat bit of trivia while reflecting the fact that it's out of date.

Retirement
According to the following link, he retired because he could not recover from an abdominal strain. Right/wrong? Should this be added to his page? --Halmass (talk) 13:35, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

GAC
After a big big rewrite, this article is a current good article candidate, see this link. Copyediting and constructive criticism are appreciated. —Onomatopoeia (talk) 23:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I learned something new
...from one of yesterday afternoon's episodes of the new Trivial Pursuit: I find it hard to believe the NBA used an actual player—this very guy—in their logo! --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 04:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * One of West's lesser used nicknames is actually "The Logo" ;) —Onomatopoeia (talk) 20:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

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College Stats
I added a link to West's college statistics to the article. I realize that the link provided to basketball-reference.com has college stats, but the stats at WVUstats.com include single game highs in college and awards and honors not listed at basketball-reference. I also figured that if someone was interested enough in Jerry West's college career, they might be interested in WVU basketball stats in general. So I hope that at least one person finds that link useful.--RandyBeegle (talk) 03:27, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

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Too much
Egad...too many statistics. The article goes on and on and on. This is supposed to be a biography, not a play by play synopsis of every basketball game Jerry West ever played, and certainly not every blasted shot he took. Throw out 30-40% of the statistical stuff, and clean up the play by play action. Also, the pictures???? Boring. Unless they relate to something specific within the article, they do not belong. It's a good article, sure, but it needs drastic editing. For example, count the number of times the word but is used (or yet, or however). The sentence structure is overly long, complex, and goes on and on and on. By the time, a reader gets to the halfway point, the poor reader is exhausted with sentences that say something like: well, Jerry missed 30.5 fouls from the free throw line, but his overall scoring for that half was 16.7 assists and 69 points; yet, when he tried to pull himself together (as the champion, NBA, small forward that he was, from years gone by); and in the second half, when he stepped to the free throw line, his average got even worse (45 missed fouls???) (and 16 were even 3-point conversions!!!!!); nevertheless, (or should we say, however ) as the game came to a thundering close, Jerry West, Mr. MVP for the day, scored the final basket with a mid-court SLAM, making Air Jordan's similar feats from yesteryear look almost elementary. JiggleJog (talk) 16:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Logo
umm, jerry's bio on nba.com makes no mention of his likeness being the basis for the logo. can anyone point me to a proper source on this?? 114.30.119.167 (talk) 02:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)bilby jones
 * A recent article on the topic: &mdash; Myasuda (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, your link is dead. Fox Sports.com ran a story a couple years ago entitled "If West is the NBA's logo, should he be?"  That story is also since removed, but is reprinted here.  Money quote:
 * "'I found the original photograph in the archives of Sport Magazine,' (logo designer Alan) Siegel said. 'It was an action shot of Jerry West dribbling down the court from one of the Lakers' games. I sketched it, cleaned it up a bit and stylized it. I streamlined the tracing I made -- (and) slimmed it down a little bit -- so it would work in all applications.'"
 * The article also says that the NBA denies the logo is based on any one person, labeling such claims as "urban myth." West is also quoted in the story as saying:
 * "'If it is me, I'm obviously honored that they would have thought enough of me to place me there,' he said, 'But I don't think they've ever officially confirmed that it's me. I can tell you that a lot of people say it's me.'"
 * So the truth is not as simple as claimed - a photo of West was the original source, it is widely presumed to be him, but the logo is not actually intended to represent him or any other player. The article should reflect this.  SixFourThree (talk) 15:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)SixFourThree
 * It is well stablished that the logo is based off an image of him. The NYTime's article today nods to that.
 * The issue with finding a definite source for this is that the NBA will never publicly confirm this because it will mean that they will be potentially liable for royalties and or some sort of payment to West.
 * https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/12/sports/jerry-west-dead.html
 * He was a sharpshooting, high-scoring Hall of Fame guard for the Lakers and later an executive with the team. His image became "the N.B.A.’s logo." 38.32.121.219 (talk) 17:30, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * "a signature figure in the history of the Los Angeles Lakers and a literal icon of the sport — his is the silhouette on the logo of the National Basketball Association — died on Wednesday. He was 86." From the same NYTimes article 38.32.121.219 (talk) 17:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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The Quadruple Double
There is a discrepancy here. This article states that West logged a 'quadruple double' (double digits in 4 of the following in one game: points, steals, assists, rebounds, or blocked shots), but in the citation (NBA.com) it states:

''only four players have officially recorded a quadruple-double in National Basketball Association (NBA) history. The first American male player above the high school level to officially record a quadruple-double was Nate Thurmond, who achieved this feat in 1974 while playing for the NBA's Chicago Bulls.''

It doesn't say whether he was one of those players, but he retired in 1974, so unless he did it in his final year of play (and the two first quad-doubles took place in the same year, which you'd think the NBA.com article would mention), this seems erroneous. At very least, the citation doesn't contain the info stated. Skabbonica (talk) 13:51, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The article states (correctly) that West's quadruple double is unofficial, so there is no conflict. Note that any quadruple-double occurring prior to the 1973-74 season is unofficial as steals and blocked-shots were not "officially" recorded until that season. &mdash; Myasuda (talk) 14:07, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

The logo
The article has been pretty vague on the topic of the logo, as far as it is concerned. If West actually is the face of the logo, then there should be proper information on it. If possible, it would be better if the actual picture that inspired the logo also was included.

On the other hand, if the logo story is an urban myth, as is suggested in one of the other talk threads, it should be clarified as to what the myth actually is, and who said what.

The logo, as a whole, generates enough interest and deserves a full explanation, if not an article by itself, IMHO.

TheOriginalSoni (talk) 18:07, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It is not a vague thing. It is a well stablished fact. The only reason why the NBA will not officially confirm this is because this will give West and or his state the power to claim royalties from using his Likeness as the basis of the logo. The is a reason why the entire NBA community nicknames West as "the logo" and today's NYTimes article and many other sources confirm that this is a well stablished fact. 38.32.121.219 (talk) 18:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

NBA Career Statistics
Please add NBA career statistics. Nintendoswitchfan (talk) 07:21, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Trump Historical Context Removed
There is no summary by Bagumba for this edit. Why was the reversion made? Yet someone else wrote only a few hours before on a related article (see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mariano_Rivera&diff=next&oldid=1024521223, also most recently edited by Bagumba) "Now it reads like Trump is the highest civilian award in the US". Lacking any other rationale, this is on odd statement as well as an odd reason for a reversion. The added context was historically accurate (ie. noting the president at the time the award was made). Why would you remove that accurate context Bagumba? Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeSchiro (talk • contribs) 16:33, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe you are referring to this edit, in which I left the edit summary of "details in body". Trump is mentioned in the body. Per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE: The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance. The most important fact is West receiving the award, not who bestowed it, and the details remain in the body. For the record, the inclusion of the president was reverted in other articles as well, suggesting there is not an obvious consensus for this in the infobox.—Bagumba (talk) 06:41, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Passed Away
Jerry West passed away at 86 years old 203.211.109.34 (talk) 14:05, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Where did you learn of that? Wikipedia can't put such a thing in a biography of a living person without a reliable source.  signed, Willondon (talk)  14:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)