Talk:Jersey barrier

Use of Term
I disagree that the term is not used in New Jersey. The term is not used in official documents, but is commonly used by traffic engineers and construction workers.


 * That may be so, but the general public in New Jersey has no idea what a Jersey barrier is. I have to agree with the author that the term is rarely used in N.J.  Perhaps it should be edited to say "rarely used by the general public." --Shortynj 22:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I've lived in Jersey all my life, and can confirm this is true; I'd never heard the term until today. This isn't a citation, of course, but it should demonstrate that the author didn't invent the data, at least.  Elmo iscariot (talk) 17:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Google disagrees with you -- KelleyCook (talk) 23:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I don't understand--we're discussing whether the term is well-known by NJ citizens, not whether the term is in common use elsewhere. I'm not grasping the intent of your Google link.  :)  Elmo iscariot (talk) 16:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

It may well be the term was popularized by visitors. I sure remember crossing the bridge and encountering these things on the highways. You knew you were in Jersey by the (we thought then) ugly barriers all over the place. NJ natives maybe don't know what a "Jersey driver" is either.

Gjxj (talk) 02:24, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

K-rail etymology
Anyone know where the term K-rail came from, is the K just some bastard synonym for concrete in this case? Out west here we've always said K-rail, but I have no idea why :) --Fxer 23:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It seems to also be referred to as "Temporary Railing (Type K)" in a lot of CalTrans PDFs. 209.166.176.194 17:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC) (ndt@acm.org)

Jersey Barrier, or Ontario Tall Wall Barrier?
Is it factual to actually list a barrier over three feet tall as a Jersey barrier, when there are a number of websites (even from government sources) that list the taller versions of the barrier as an Ontario Tall Wall Barrier, rather than a Jersey barrier? Some of the sources include:

http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/marapr00/concrete.htm

http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/2006/1/2006_1_26.shtml

http://www.roadstothefuture.com/Jersey_Barrier.html

Should we not include some reference to the Ontario Tall Wall Barrier in this article? The US FHWA seems to believe it's noteworthy enough.

Snickerdo 18:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey there. I moved all the Ontario stuff to the end of the article and reorganized it a bit. Feel free to undo it if necessary. 74.105.183.23 01:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyright Issues
The two paragraphs starting with "For higher impact..." and "It is only necessary..." appear to be lifted directly from one of the references, http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/marapr00/concrete.htm. Can we use government publications this way? 209.166.176.194 13:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC) (ndt@acm.org)
 * US Federal government works are in the public domain. So, yes, you can use it in this way.  Ydorb 16:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but cutting and pasting so much is still really bad form. --jpgordon:==( o ) 15:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

That is a terrible photo of a Jersey barrier (obviously taken at very high speed)
The next time I am stuck in a traffic jam, I will try to get a good photo of a Jersey barrier for this article. --Coolcaesar (talk) 08:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Both photos currently in the article (other than the diagram) are really poor. Too bad I didn't find this article about 2 years ago, when my regular commute found me stuck in stop and go traffic next to miles of those things every day due to a major construction project...  --Rehcsif (talk) 02:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Green 'tops'
Does anyone know what the green slat "toppers" they place on these things are called? They are commonly used around here (Minnesota) to divide freeway traffic that is placed with no median. I think it's supposed to prevent oncoming headlight blindness, but I'm not sure why they use a slat design vs. a solid one... --Rehcsif (talk) 02:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In doing some more googling, I heard some people refer to them as "glare screens" but I couldn't find a single picture of what I'm talking about, which is odd, because I see them in almost every major freeway reconstruction project... --Rehcsif (talk) 04:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, "Glare Screens" is the most commonly used descriptor. An issue with this label (and most labels relating to this field) is that practice is highly balkanized among the 50 United States. Each state potentially uses different labels for essentially the same item, and those different labels are codified by state law or regulation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RandyNdhm (talk • contribs) 13:59, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

What is "spill"?
The last sentence in the article reads:

"These barriers can also be filled with soil, spill or concrete to produce a heavier barrier with greater crash protection,"

What is the "spill" referred to there?75.18.172.134 (talk) 09:50, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Maybe curb water or something? Jidanni (talk) 15:55, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Weight
Do not know what is the weight for the Jersey barrier?

Is it 1 ton (2,000 pounds)? Is it 2 tons (4,000 pounds)? Is it 3 tons (6,000 pounds)? Is it 4 tons (8,000 pounds)? Is it 5 tons (10,000 pounds)?

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 * Cheers, it would be helpful if newly formatted link was also added on talk page for historical sake,and yes I know I am discussing this with a bot... so added.  Fylbecatulous talk 10:12, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Link to german Wikipedia
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betonschutzwand#Jersey-Barriere — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.222.212.23 (talk) 23:21, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Dated language
thoughts about the phrase "concerns that are as valid today as they were 80 years ago"

(a) it's commentary, not facts; adds little value

(b) the "80 years" would have to be constantly updated.

Suggestion: eliminate completely or at a minimum reword to remove the reference to a specific time period, e.g. replace with "concerns that are still valid today" 2600:8802:5118:8A00:16BC:70B:1AA1:F5DC (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)