Talk:Jewel (singer)/Archive 1

Late Career
lol what, from the age 29 till whenever she puts out her last album and stops touring will be considered her late career?? I am fairly confident that when she will be 60 (30 years from now....) that what she will be doing now will be considered her late career

I think that late career should be replaced with current/recent

Trans-Siberian Orchestra
It is not metion that she appears in the DVD the Gosht of Christmas Eve from the Trans-Siberian Orchestra, part of the box set the Christmas Trilogy. She sings the song Hark! The Herald Angels Sing.

Her Grandfather
There was a TV show called Pop-up video that would show music videos accompanied by facts about the artist. During an episode in which they were showing the video for "Who Will Save Your Soul," a blurb explained that Jewel was from Alaska and her grandfather helped draft portions of its constitution. Is there any truth to this, especially since it says here that her parents were Swiss-born?

Reply: Jewel's Grandfather Yule Kilcher is probably deserving of his own Wikipedia entry if anyone cares to draft one. It was he that was born in Switzerland and emigrated to Alaska as a homesteader.

"Kilcher was among the delegates to Alaska's pre-statehood constitutional convention in 1955-56, and he served in the state Senate from 1963-67 before returning to Homer."

Source: http://www.alaska.edu/creatingalaska/convention/delegates/kilcher.xml

Jewel is not LDS
Jewel mentioned that she and her father used to attend an LDS church, but stopped attending just before she turned 8 (when her father was excommunicated). Since they stopped attending before she turned 8, it's unlikely that she was even baptized, which gives one official membership in the church. Since she (probably) wasn't baptized, she isn't an official member of the church and I don't think she'd characterize herself as "Mormon."

As much as I'd love it if she were LDS, I don't think we can call her one just because she used to attend an LDS church as a child, for a while. Currently, she doesn't even act very LDS. Unless we have some verifiable proof that she is LDS, we should remove her from the Notable Latter Day Saints category. &mdash; Frecklefoot | Talk 15:23, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)


 * Well, if that's the case then by all means do so. I was obviously in error. - Gilgamesh 19:20, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I will agree with the above comments. However, I have read Jewels memoir ("Chasing Down The Dawn") and she does refer to her family as "Mormons". I will cite a reference here shortly.

Move to Jewel Kilcher?
A numbber of articles about singers who go by their first names have been disambiguated by adding their last name, such as Dido Armstrong and Sade Adu. Should this article be moved to simply Jewel Kilcher and the links and disambiguation page updated, and this page made a redirect? Derrick Coetzee 00:03, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * I don't know of any specific policy for this, but I vote to keep it as is. Most people don't even know her last name and will link to Jewel and Jewel (singer) will be easier for them to disam than Jewel Kilcher.  I don't think she's ever gone by that professionally even though that may be her full legal name. Just my $.02...   &mdash; Frecklefoot | Talk 05:22, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

KelisFan2K5 moved this page to Jewel Kilcher, but I don't think he/she read this discussion. I moved it back to Jewel (singer). Please, if you want to move this page, discuss it here first. &mdash; Frecklefoot | Talk 18:47, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

I think that this page should be moved to Jewel Kilcher. After all, nobody calls her Jewel (singer) and Jewel is just short for Jewel Kilcher, rather than being a pseudonym. It would be a nicer sort of disambiguation. There is a singer called Jewell credited on 1992 gangsta rap album The Chronic. There would be less confusion between Jewell and Jewel Kilcher. Tim Ivorson 08:46, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I respectfully disagree. Jewel links to the disambiguation page.  There, whoever is looking for Jewel the singer will immediately see Jewel (singer) and know that is the link they want.  If we put in Jewel Kilcher, it isn't immediately obvious that she is the singer that they are looking for.


 * No, no one claims that people call her "Jewel (singer)", but no one calls her "Jewel Kilcher" either. Appending a person's reason for noteriety is the normal way we disambiguate articles with similar names. Besides, Jewel Kilcher redirects to this article if someone decides to use that name in an article.    &mdash; Frecklefoot | Talk 17:28, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)


 * The text of the disambiguation page needn't change, if that wouldn't improve it.
 * I didn't mean to say that somebody claims that somebody calls her Jewel (singer). I meant that somebody calls her Jewel Kilcher. If that's not the case, then I withdraw my objection. When I made my comment, I thought of the suggestion only to disambiguate where really necessary (WikiProject Music). I thought that moving the page to Jewel Kilcher would make disambiguation unnecessary now and if there are ever other articles about singers called Jewel. Tim Ivorson 09:01, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * If another singer ever comes along called "Jewel," we can deal with it then. For now, I think the name of the article should stand as is.  If course this is just MHO.   &mdash; Frecklefoot | Talk 16:09, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * OK. Tim Ivorson 08:28, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

NPOV/sources
A lot of this is a bit opinionated, for instance "It's an innovative album that is smart, fun, and sexy. It also contains heartfelt lyrics about love..."

Also, there's not a single reference for any of the stuff written here. --Foofy 19:26, 10 December 2005 (UTC)