Talk:Jewel (singer)/Archive 3

Half Brother
I'm surprised there is no mention of her half brother, Nikos; they both share the same father, but have different mothers. According to Jewel's account in the song, the reason her father was excommunicated from the church was because of his relationship with Nikos' mother, Linda. You can view the song here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvQtB-3KbN0 Uhhuhhim (talk) 01:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Fine Article
This is a fine article: applause! You critics are too harsh. One point. The main article states that: "She started writing songs at the age of seventeen.[11]" But the singer states in "Jewel from the Realto Square Theatre Part 1 (#1404)" a live performance, that she started writing songs at the age of sixteen. http://www.mpt.org/schedule/series.cfm?series_id=12378#168374 rumjal 20:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

longest chart run
Folks I'm no expet on Wikipedia but I read an article in November which I want to share with you because some of you will know how to make the corrections and I won't mess anything up.

The article is from http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/search/google/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003676768

November 23, 2007, by Fred Bronson, which states that LeAnn Rimes has the record for longest chart run on the hot 100 at 69 weeks on the charts.

It's possible that Jewel no longer holds 2nd place.

Historian29 (talk) 21:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

New Photo
i think that the photo needs to be replaced with a more recent one! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MariAna Mimi (talk • contribs) 19:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Who exactly "discovered her"?
As the title says, who discovered her, according to the article it was flea and then there was there the other one. --MoRsE (talk) 16:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Move
Why was this moved to Jewel Kilcher? She's known professionally as Jewel, and per WP:NC, pages should match the most common name. She's credited as just Jewel in sources and on albums; therefore, her most commonly recognized name is Jewel. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Birth/"Origin"/Nationality
Please, in keeping with standards, this person is an American. Until we begin referring to Kurt Cobain as a "Washington musician" or Kurt Weill as a "Saxony-Anhalt composer," we should introduce Jewel as American. After the introduction, it would then be appropriate to mention her upbringing and notable Alaskan achievements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.58.2 (talk) 19:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

So far, there wasn't any serious violations on the rule. Jewel is originally from Alaska as she states and was billed from, despite the fact her birthplace was Payson, Utah when her parents briefly lived there. + Mike D 26 (talk) 08:23, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

"Personal Life" NEEDS EDITING!!
The section "Personal Life" happens to be very short and I ask if anyone would help extend it. Multimusiclover1 (talk) 01:12, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
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Is this needed?
In the project clean water section the image: has nothing to do with Jewel or even the section that it is in, so is it really needed? Multimusiclover1 (talk) 17:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I have removed it from the article. Additionally the image is up for deletion discussion as the copyright claim seems pretty dubious (work of the FDA -- hunh?), it may be deleted as non-free, and I don't thinks it is so important to the article that it would qualify for a fair use rationale. Infrogmation (talk) 00:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Early years: "For a time, she was poverty-stricken and lived in her van"
This line is inaccurate and a sensational fabrication. I quote the cited source: "Jewel decided that she was going to make her living by her music no matter what, quitting her day job to live in her van." (http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/j/jewel-liveathumphreysdvd.shtml). Which is a lot closer to the facts. The cited article never used the word "poverty" or "poverty-stricken". I live in San Diego and followed Jewel's early career in the local music pages. My understanding is this: Jewel had a decent job (waiting tables) and an apartment. She and her mother (who was managing Jewel's early singing career) decided they would each buy vans that were properly equipped for living. Jewel would quit her job, thereby allowing her to concentrate all her time and effort on her singing/songwriting. Both of them would live in their vans that they had parked near the coffee houses that Jewel was singing in. None of this implies being "poverty-stricken". Jewel and her Mother made choices that allowed them to save money and free-up time.--2010 Observer (talk) 19:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Early years: "She gained some recognition by singing at the Innerchange Coffeehouse and Java Joe's in San Diego, California."
This is an understatement of the first order. In fact Jewel was dicovered by Atlantic executives while singing at the Innerchange ( as it is noted later in the article). True, she had "gained some recognition" prior to being discovered by Atlantic, but there needs to be more clarification and coordination in the article.--2010 Observer (talk) 19:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2010 Observer (talk • contribs) 19:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC) --2010 Observer (talk) 19:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Goodbye Alice in Wonderland (song)


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"In My Room"
The song "In My Room" which appears on The Merry Goes 'Round is not the same as "In My Room" by the Beach Boys. Varlaam (talk) 00:09, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

maybe I am missing why you had to say this? if you "listen" to the song.. you would know that right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.169.224.104 (talk) 07:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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Everyday Angels and Jewelstock
Jewel has been very communicative with her fanbase, especially during the Pieces of You years. Someone has already mentioned the Everyday Angels, and Jewel gave a two-day concert (Patty Griffin opened) called JewelStock July 18th and 19th, 1996. Should this information be included in the Jewel article? 186.2.136.6 (talk) 17:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)Scott Broughton

Removal of Mormon categorization
I added Category:Former Latter Day Saints to Jewel's page, however this was not accurate and it was reverted. If so, then this page should also be corrected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_Latter_Day_Saints — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deaddebate (talk • contribs) 14:46, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Done. Thank you for pointing this out. The source used there only mentioned a rumor about Ms. Kilcher's Mormon upbringing; it did not confirm that she is ex-Mormon. Rebb  ing  15:11, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

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Philanthropy section needs major work
Everything after the first paragraph reads as if lifted directly from an organization biography aimed at donors. Anybody available to dig deeper and clean this section up? Denstat (talk) 04:50, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Article issues

 * On an initial fast read there are two issues: 1)- Citation tags, 2)- "External links" entries. This is listed as a B-class article with six involved projects. The "criteria" (#1) states, The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited.
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American "hasbeen" singer???
why the shade? 216.59.66.4 (talk) 04:53, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It has been fixed, vandalism.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  20:26, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Woodstock '99
Just finished watching Trainwreck: Woodstock '99. Why is there no mention of her appearance at such a legendary festival ? ArturSik (talk) 18:03, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Attribution?
Could use some attribution/citations for the background. MurMiles (talk) 05:58, 4 June 2023 (UTC)