Talk:Jewish Kalam

No merge
I don't believe the articles should be merged. The Kalam article is substantial enough to stand on its own, and I will hopefully be making further additions in the future. We don't need to merge everything into a single omniscient "Everything Jewish" article. If the Judaeo-Islamic page wants to reference the Kalam page as a main subject page, that's of course fine. —Dfass 11:10, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * But is there much more on the Judeo-Islamic page beyond this philosophy of Judaised Kalam? Jheald 11:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree; the Judeo-Islamic philosophies article would presumably discuss other positions, and concentrate on their relationships. Perhaps it can include a "Further information:" link to this article. eug (talk) 12:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I am going to remove the Merge tag. It's been there for two years, and no good arguments for the merge have been forthcoming.  Thanks. —Dfass (talk) 14:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Small contradiction
David Ibn Merwan Al-Mukammas is listed under the category of Rabbinite practicioners of Kalam, but his own Wikipedia page implies several times that he was a Karaite and never claims he was a Rabbinite. 69.118.3.165 (talk) 21:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The doctrines of the Bahshamiyyites, was written between 1141 CE and 1276 CE by Taqî al-Dîn al-Bahrânî. This text illustrates the influence of Abû l-Husayn had on theological reasoning of Imâmî Shî'a from the 12th century forward. The study of Jewish Mu'tazilism (Jewish Kalam) began only within the last 150 years with the works of Schreiner and Munk. Schreiner and Munk, however, were not aware of the primary sources to be found among the various Genizah materials that Moshe Gil and others have found. Recent studies of Jewish Mu'tazilism were written by Harry Austryn Wolfson in Repercussions of the Kalam in Jewish Philosophy, and Georges Vajda writings regarding Yûsuf al-Basîr. Sarah Stroumsa published the 'Ishrûn Maqâla of the 9th century Jewish mutakallim David Ibn Marwan al-Mukammas . Mukammas, at worst, was on the fence between Qarait and Rabbanit, at best a leading proponent of Sa'adya Gaon's Kalam which came to be known as "Jewish Kalam".  Jimharlow99 (talk) 17:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)