Talk:Jewish views on love

Delete article
This article should be deleted! It was taken yesterday from Judaism and Christianity, and does not discuss only the Jewish theology of love. Apart form that it seems to be based almost exclusively on one source only. Debresser (talk) 12:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


 * 80-90 % of it is about Judaism, with only 10-20 % of inter-cultural material with Christianity. It cites at least two prominent modern Jewish writers and gives plenty of references in sacred texts. Because it is primarily a disseration about Jewish teachings, I felt that it did not belong in an article about Christianity and Judaism. For this reason, it should not be deleted as well. ADM (talk) 12:42, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I tried to reorganize this article into logical sections. There's all this material about Franz Rosenzweig that doesn't belong here, and which should probably be moved to an article about Franz Rosenzweig or, if it's left here, it should be condensed into a paragraph. Lkjowa (talk) 05:06, 7 December 2010 (UTC) I also added material from the Jewish Encylopedia article on love.Lkjowa (talk) 05:32, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You did a great job here. Debresser (talk) 21:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your encouragement! Lkjowa (talk) 04:53, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Name
Also, maybe this article should be called "Jewish views of love" or something like that, rather than "Jewish theology of love," so that it could include sources that are not necessarily so theological.Lkjowa (talk) 05:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe indeed. Debresser (talk) 21:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved to Jewish views on love per discussion. - GTBacchus(talk) 23:28, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Jewish theology of love → Jewish views of love — There's theology here, but there's also ethics and politics. Other suggested names? Lkjowa (talk) 04:53, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Support There isn't a single "Jewish theology of love". I think it should be "on love" rather than "of love", however. The Celestial City (talk) 17:41, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Move to Jewish views on love ('note: it should be "on" NOT "of") similar to: Jewish views on marriage, Jewish views on contraception, Jewish views on incest etc. IZAK (talk) 14:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Tentative oppose. Most of the article deals with the commandment to love God.  This is theology.  Perhaphs to split the tholigy part into an article on the commandment and the rest into...??   Joe407 (talk) 14:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Musar and Hasidism
I was recently sent an article in English about the importance of love for the Musar movement figure Simcha Zissel Ziv but now can't find the article. Has anyone seen this? I also thought that there should be something in this entry for Hasidism, but I'm having trouble coming up with source.Ahavat-chesed (talk) 20:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Jesus
I removed, again, the story from the Christian bible. It doesn't matter that the Christian bible says it is the Jewish perspective on love. If Jews accepted the views of the Christian bible, they would be Christians. That's tautological. 24.11.87.186 (talk) 00:56, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This article is about Jewish views on love. If there is information on Jewish views on love in books written by non-Jewish authors, it is still valid.--Toddy1 (talk) 06:40, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Does R' Akiva really contradict himself?
The first paragraph of (sub)section "Love among human beings", begins with the verse of love thy neighbor as thyself, that "Rabbi Akiva indicated that this is the central commandment of the Torah," and that this "emboldens individuals to treat each other as equals which requires first valuing oneself in order to be able to mirror that love onto others." And ends with "Some Jewish sources" who are not named "have emphasized the importance of self-sacrifice in regards to putting our needs second to another's but Rabbi Akiva's teaching of "Your own life takes precedence to that of another, contradicts his own principle of loving thy neighbor as thyself." He didn't really contradict himself, if anything he contradicted those who "have emphasized the importance of self-sacrifice in regards to putting our needs second to another's." But even that isn't necessarily a contradiction, as the last quote from R' Akiva is specifically dealing with life and death. Yaakovaryeh (talk) 22:46, 9 September 2015 (UTC)