Talk:Ji (polearm)

Types of Ji
Is it appropriate here to mention the Xiao Shou Ji (Twin shortstaffed halberds)? I know, short question, but. . . CaTigeReptile 12:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

About some weapon classification
"Yueji" is a present-day created name, no historical document to provide it is be classified to ji.

To Qiushufang:

The Content farm webpage you add is not a reliable sources.So it should be remove. A ISBN number to mean that a exist publication.

About classification.If based on your inference,the iron horse or the seahorse will be classified as a horse ,and the bearcat will be classified as a cat.Obviously they are all wrong.A name is not equal to its classification.

The other present-day name of "Yueji" is "Qimao"(戚鉾,meaning axe-spear),and the appearance of Yueji is very similar to some Yue(鉞).Some translations use halberd to mean Fuyue(斧鉞). So Yueji should not be classified to ji now.

In addition,the definition of halberd is a kind of long shaft axe, so "axe-halberd" become "axe-long shaft axe", overlying double axe, the name is very inaccurate and absurd.

About "better source needed". Academic sources are not necessary. And academic sources are not "better" than other reliable sources (sometimes maybe worse).Furthermore, you use an incorrect name in reason section.So it should be remove.Ironbolt (talk) 18:02, 14 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I did not simply say that it is not only a non-academic source, but I've also failed to find any other source which calls it a "spear". You seem to be bent on terminological pedantism. The object in question, whether you call it a qimao or yueji, is obviously considered and categorized as a ji now. A Google search of either qimao or fuyue turn up little to no results similar to the object in question. In comparison, yueji turns up the most relevant results pertaining to the object at hand. It is obvious that the item is most popularly known as a "yueji" today. Again, this is not an encyclopedia for ancient Chinese but modern people. If they cannot find the object called a "yueji" now, whether are they supposed to find it? Qiushufang (talk) 18:17, 14 October 2021 (UTC)