Talk:Jill Kelley

Syrian origin ?
The Khwam family is of Syrian origin.

I found this source that says her parents were Syrians

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a975/david-petraeus-scandal-kelley-sisters/

Sélim Khawam Whatsupkarren (talk) 17:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

I propose a total reboot
If a few people are happy to work alongside me, I propose we pare this article back to a stub and line by line rebuilding using only quality references from reliable sources and very neutral language. It's languished for a long time with the COI-editing tag, even though the subject says it isn't true (I have no other information about that) and up above I see a lot of contentious back and forth rather than calm Wikipedia-style work to make a decent unbiased biography.

I plan to wait for comments until Thursday, and then decide next steps for whether I'll launch into this myself.

I have no conflict of interest here. Jimbo Wales (talk) 09:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to help, . I have no conflict of interest. = paul2520 💬 14:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Great! Should be fun!  I hope to get some free time later this week but it could be next week - London Tech Week this week and lots to do.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 11:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I dug into the history a bit, including reviewing frequent editors and learning more about Kelley and . There's a long history & several sockpuppet accounts have touched the page. Suffice it to say, the total reboot idea is valid.
 * I can't say I've done a total rework (at least not of an article this long), but am excited to collaborate on this.
 * Here's a tentative plan:
 * one of us starts Draft:Jill Kelley as if it were a new article, leveraging sources from this article or via new searches
 * once that article is in a reasonable state, replace the contents of this article & redirect the draft
 * make sure the edit summary references Draft:Jill Kelley and/or this talk page (perhaps )
 * I'm happy to get started on this, possibly as early as tonight or tomorrow. = paul2520 💬 14:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I started Draft:Jill Kelley, and would appreciate you reviewing/contributing. I've been more focused on the Bio thus far, which still needs more content. I started a Controversies section, and think both subsections could be expanded.

I will keep expanding as I can. = paul2520 💬 22:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Status update: the draft is at 577 words, compared to 1153 words in the original. I know there are some topics that aren't yet in the draft, and the Petraeus scandal section could definitely be expanded in the draft.
 * I'm also wondering how to expand the lead. For one thing, should I add the word "entrepreneur" or otherwise mention that she has founded several companies/organizations? = paul2520 💬 01:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * thoughts on me replacing the current article with the contents of the draft page, then continuing work here? = paul2520 💬 15:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I decided to be bold and replace the page with the contents of the draft article.
 * I'm hoping you and others can help expand this article further, as it's shorter than it was before the rewrite. = paul2520 💬 21:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)