Talk:Jim Parsons/Archive 1

Additional source
Parsons' CBS bio I'll add the source and copyedit when I can. Tealwisp (talk) 01:55, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Stage appearances
One editor removed this section entirely. I noticed but didn't revert because none of the entries in the section was sourced. However, another editor reverted. I've added a tag to the section. It needs sources to remain.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Religion
Are there any reliable sources that state the article subject's religion and/or ethnicity? --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:46, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * There is AFAIK no public statement on article subject's religion. This site http://www.flixster.com/actor/jim-parsons claims that he is catholic but gives no source. He graduated from the University of San Diego, a Roman Catholic university. In an interview http://shows.ctv.ca/TheBigBangTheory/article/Big-Bang-Theory-star-Jim-Parsons-on-his-newfound-fame-his-Emmy-nomination-and-being-typecast#c_0 he states that he prays sometimes. His father's funeral service was held at Trinity Lutheran Church (Klein, TX) http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/obits_3371347/milton.html and his mother taught prekindergarten in a private Lutheran school http://classroom.kleinisd.net/webs/jparsons/meet_the_teachers.htm But that is all sparse and indirect information and as long he does not make a public statement this question remains open. And even if his religion is known it is a question of relevance for the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.217.1.6 (talk) 16:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Mboisson, 19 September 2011
In personal life : He is openly gay and engaged to Todd Spiewak. Source : http://www.queerty.com/big-bang-theorys-jim-parsons-is-engaged-to-boyfriend-todd-spiewak-20100908/

Mboisson (talk) 12:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I do not believe that that source is reliable enough to make an edit like that on a BLP, especially since it seems to source the National Enquirer. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 13:58, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Adding Muppets (2011) to Filmography
Imdb reports that he played "Human Walter" in The Muppets. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1433588/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.54.3 (talk) 08:20, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Poptower
There was a discussion in Ptwiki about the site and we found the site to be non-reliable. Mainly due to terms of use stating that the site is not responsible for the published information, but also due to excessive popups and to copied material from other sites. See and. As such, I've removed this from the article: " His hobbies include playing the piano and watching sports, especially tennis, baseball, and basketball. " Ladsgroupبحث 18:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * P.S. so did Perez Hilton Ladsgroupبحث 18:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

So many reliable references considered this interview as a come out. I did a little search. If you want i can search further. huffingtonpost:, USA magazine:, LA times:,Vancouversun:, New york daily times:,CBS news:, People magazine:, MSN news:, E!:. Ladsgroupبحث 19:29, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, here's the history of whether Wikipedia should report that Parsons came out. As you can see above, there was a long discussion about how to word what happened and whether to include LGBT cats per WP:BLPCAT. The discussion ended on May 30, 2012. I waited a couple of weeks to make sure there was no more discussion and concluded a consensus had been reached about both and edited the article accordingly. I logged what I did on June 14. There was no objection until July 3 when Rusted Auto Parts inserted the cats. I reverted him and pointed him to the Talk page. He asked if a consensus had been reached, and no one responded. Along comes Ladsgroup who inserted the cats with a reference. I reverted because the reference adds nothing as it merely reports on the NYT interview. Ladsgroup reverted again, this time adding 12 references that are essentially same as the first - all simply report on the NYT interview. Ladsgroup also wrote this really odd sentence: "This interview is considered as a come out." Sounds like a sports play.

It seems to me there are a couple of issues that I suppose need to be discussed. First, is there a reason to change the consensus reached before, or was I wrong to conclude there was a consensus? Second, if the NYT interview is insufficient for Wikipedia to state that Parsons came out and self-identifies as gay, do all these other secondary sources (12 and I have no doubt Ladsgroup, in his zeal, could find more :-) ), saying that Parsons came out change the equation?

In the meantime, because this is a BLP issue and because of the previous discussion, I am going to revert so we go back to the safer status quo. If there is a consensus to change it, fine, but it can wait until such a consensus is reached. I ask other editors to respect that position and be a little patient during the process. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:10, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I can't understand when 12 (and counting :D) references says Jim Parsons came out (They implied NYT reference but they said "he came out") why you want to remove it. WP:V says "No matter how convinced you are that something is true, do not add it to an article unless it is verifiable" there is so many mainstream references implied "he came out" so please don't judge what references said i.e. when references say "he came out" we must consider this interview (NYT is a primary references and per WP:PRIMARY and we have no right to judge what it said) as a came out not anything else. we do not say is he gay or not we say he is out of closet or not

About the category I say it's not Category:People self-identifying as gay! it is "Category:Gay people" (or one of subcats). He is out of closet (No matter he came out or being outed) if it's not true, he would sent a massage NYT to remove the interview or do something similar

about the sports play! OK I'm not a native English-speaker so I don't how to rewrite that sentence that not seems sports play! please rewrite it.

There is no consensus about that (And there was not, too) i mean i can't see anything similar to a consensus. If you are agree we can request a mediation Ladsgroupبحث 22:30, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * WP:BLPCAT actually means exactly that, Category:Gay people is nothing more and nothing less than Category:People self-identifying as gay. And all the commentary calling it a coming out is exactly that, commentary and opinion pieces. They have no more information that the original NY Times article. They didn't talk to Parsons. They're simply offering their opinions on the NY Times piece. Question is if their opinions carry enough WP:WEIGHT to be included here, and I would lean towards a "no" on that. Siawase (talk) 22:40, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, all of the sources just parrot each other and rely on the NYT. As for your language skills, I know that if there's a consensus to say that Parsons came out, it can be rewritten. Indeed, we would rewrite that part, eliminating your sentence. No offense, by the way, I just found it amusing. As for self-identification, please read WP:BLPCAT, which is policy. I think mediation is a bit premature. Let's see whether we get any comments. If nothing happens soon, I'll post something at WP:BLPN in an effort to attract more experienced editors who usually have opinions on these things. Please be patient, thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:43, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

In the NYT reference is written: "Mr. Parsons is gay and in a 10-year relationship, and working with an ensemble again onstage was like nourishment, he said." And there is no sentence ending mark between the gay statement and "he said" statement that means he said he is gay (it's an indirect speech if i'm not wrong) Ladsgroupبحث 23:01, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * If you would read through the May discussion, you'll see we parsed that sentence to death and concluded that it was not self-identification as gay.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I read it but your argument is there is big pause in middle of sentence! if there was such a that pause there must be ";" or "." sign too. you must judge by punctuation marks not meaning. If there is doubt about he stated they "I'm gay" phrase. we can call the writer by e-mail or official tweeter or facebook (if there is) and ask him/her "Is your meaning of 'Mr. Parsons is gay [...], he said' is he stated 'I'm gay' or something similar in your interview?". and by the way Parsons didn't object on NYT and 12 other mainstream media why he want to object Wikipedia? That's why WP:BLP is written Ladsgroupبحث 23:31, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a comma before the "and working" (grammatically, the comma is not even required except perhaps to make it clear that he didn't "say" the first part). We don't know what Parsons did (re objection). Feel free to write the NYT, but I doubt you'll get a response, and even if you did, how would we cite to it?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * maybe he did not stated "I'm gay" phrase but maybe the author asked him that he can state in the article Parsons is gay or not and Parsons did not object and we can consider those same. So I'll ask "Is your meaning of 'Mr. Parsons is gay [...], he said' is he stated 'I'm gay' or something similar in your interview or you said you'll write in your article that he is gay and he did not object?" and if there will be an answer there is no need to cite (Did you see OTRS?) or I see too much WP:WL Ladsgroupبحث 23:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a lot of speculation on your part.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:08, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we can't continue. I'll ask on WP:BLPN Ladsgroupبحث 00:17, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

The result of the WP:BLPN discussion was that the subject's sexuality merits the weight that it currently has: about one sentence. Even twelve cites don't support an additional category, extra editorializing, or extra weight to the topic biographically speaking.

Having said that, the "Personal life" section is in poor shape. Currently, it states where the subject lives and that he is gay. Having virtually an entire section (whatever it's named) dedicated to the topic might indicate a WP:WEIGHT problem, but that wasn't part of the BLPN discussion, and I can't find a better place to put the information. Cheers. JFHJr (㊟) 00:55, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, : that looks much better. JFHJr (㊟) 01:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

About this "He has skipped "I'M GAY" for cover of Time magazine" that Ladsgroup keeps trying to insert Aside from how meaningful it is to bring up things he didn't do, if you read the source it comes to the conclusion that Parsons doesn't want a big coming out. So how about we just let him be quietly out without putting extra weight on his sexuality with commentary and editorializing? Siawase (talk) 19:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Given that it's been over a month since the NYT article was published, and eleventy gazillion other news sources reported that Parsons had thus come out as gay, and Parsons has apparently felt no need to issue any kind of correction on the matter, it seems highly unlikely that he could possibly have any issue with Wikipedia saying the same thing (via the categories) that eleventy gazillion other news sources have already reported without his objection. If people want to be such sticklers about it, okay, it's not that big a deal, but I'm just saying that at this point it appears to me that concerns about applying the categories are pretty much divorced from practical reality. Theoldsparkle (talk) 15:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

This article from 5 days ago states "Anderson Cooper, Neil Patrick Harris, Jim Parsons and Matt Bomer have all spoken openly about being gay." Perhaps we can be done with this silliness now. --j⚛e deckertalk 17:42, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * So I suppose we should remove all the actors who are part of the LGBTQ community from the relevant characters because it'd be adding undue weight? Oh, guess I better go an remove those categories on Cooper's article. He has no problem with his sexuality, how is categorising the article adding undue weight? Has anyone seen the Elizabeth II article recently?  James ( Talk •  Contribs ) • 2:22pm • 04:22, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Categorizing Parsons as part of the LBGT community based on the assertions of one article seems like a stretch. While he hasn't come to deny the claim, it seems like a lot of subsequent articles (such as that from the Huffington Post) are simply using the claims of the Times article's reporter to state factually that Parsons is gay (and if that's grounds enough to categorize and label things, then every wild assertion made by a reporter for any press medium should have a category - I hear Mickey Rourke was abducted by aliens and Joe Scoop of the LA Blab seems to be certain of it/etc.). It seems like a large assumption to take as fact based on the writing of one reporter in an article from 2012 and it speaks a lot toward how no other journalist appears to want to broach the subject with the actor to either confirm or deny it so there isn't just the one "smoking gun" type of article backing up the now generalized assumption. --99.186.110.193 (talk) 07:31, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If you are a celebrity, and one of the most prestigious newspapers in the world interviews you, and they publish an article in which it is clear that you cooperated with the reporter, and the article says that you are gay, and many, many other media sources around the world take that as confirmation that you are gay and republish it as such, and a year later, you have never been seen to have given the slightest indication that the article was incorrect, and it is common knowledge -- correct or not -- that you are gay: there is no reasonable basis in the world for you to possibly be upset or offended if Wikipedia places you in a category that implies you are gay. Maybe you're not gay, but you've sure as hell shown that you don't care if people think you are. Theoldsparkle (talk) 17:01, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Personal info
The personal section appears to rely entirely on poptower.com - hardly ideal. Can nobody find a published interview to cover this sort of celebrity trivia? Ash (talk) 23:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC) Maybe it should be mentioned that his ancestor was Louis-François Trouard, architect to king of France Louis XV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:3984:AEE0:FC10:68C7:BAA:5956 (talk) 08:46, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Nissan Commercials Spokesperson
Jim Parsons, in-character as Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory, has been acting as a spokesperson in commercials for the 2014 Nissan Micra. The commercials in question are up on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=trueview-instream&v=npriO8XGI7g and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsWZ9G_OcxE 206.116.198.22 (talk) 15:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Awards and nominations
2012	Golden Globe Awards	Best Actor– Television Series: Musical or Comedy =>	didn't nominated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/69th_Golden_Globe_Awards || 2011	TCA Awards	Individual Achievement in Comedy	The Big Bang Theory	Nominated => it's 2012 not 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28th_TCA_Awards Kobe Lai (talk) 17:33, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done though it seems that years on Award Shows can vary.... --Jnorton7558 (talk) 21:10, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2014
In the last paragraph of Jim Parsons "Career: Breakthrough role in The Big Bang Theory" section it is said that he was nominated for the Emmy Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series every year from 2010 until 2014, but his first nomination actually happened in 2009. Source: http://www.emmys.com/awards/nominees-winners/2009/lead-actor-comedy

Cargonat (talk) 16:12, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Jnorton7558 (talk) 16:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2014
In the section Breakthrough role in The Big Bang Theory

In paragraph 4, there is an error in the line ...Parsons was nominated for Emmy awards in 1009,.... Please change 1009 to 2009.

Thanks.

Jagandecapri (talk) 16:24, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

✅ - Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 16:33, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching my apparent fat fingers :)--Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:56, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2015
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 * Denied as you haven't said what you would like to add to the article. I am therefore taking this as a test edit--5 albert square (talk) 11:00, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2015
Please update Mr. Parsons' age as he has just turned 42 today. Thankyou

182.68.43.216 (talk) 14:50, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * A template is already in place that automatically calculates age, so his age is already updated. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:59, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2015
He also played "Oh" an alien who's leader invaded earth in a children's film called "HOME."

Gg.ornithology (talk) 21:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done This information is already in the filmography table. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 21:31, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2015
1. A year ago, Jim Parsons has become the official face of Intel, appearing in numerous social media and TV commercials. http://celebritytoob.com/celebrity-news/intel-hires-jim-parsons-face-new-campaign/

2. He is one of the cast of 2015 movie "Visions", playing doctor Mathison http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2954474/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.247.224.28 (talk) 20:04, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2016
Jim Parsons played in the movie "Visions" in 2015 as Dr. Mathison. This was not on the list.

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Please assist to update list of awards received by Jim Parson in 2016
Hi. Just to inform you that Jim Parsons received 2 awards other that stated in wiki as at 20 April 2016.

Please update, Jim Parsons won 1. Kids’ Choice Awards 2016 - Favorite Male TV Star – Family Show Source: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kids-choice-awards-2016-complete-list-of-winners-w167038

2. TV Land Icon Awards 2016 - IHOP Fan Favourite Character Icon Award Source: http://www.iol.co.za/tonight/news/tv-land-icon-awards-winners-announced-2010937

Really appreciate for updating. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilisusanti (talk • contribs) 06:27, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


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Gasser meaning obscure
The meaning of 'gasser' in the For link at the top of the article is obscure:

"For gasser driver, see Jim Parsons (drag racer).

The Wikipedia page for gasser is titled: "Gasser (car)"

I will change the For link to read :

For the gasser (car) driver, see Jim Parsons (drag racer).

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2020
As far as I know, sheldon cooper is not in family guy and so why is he listed as one of the tv series done by Mr parsons 77.96.168.2 (talk) 18:42, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The characters was apparently a part of one show. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:09, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Sheldon and Leonard were just briefly featured in one Family Guy episode as linked above, with Parsons and Johnny Galecki reprising their Big Bang Theory roles for the guest appearance. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 19:32, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2020
Received a B.A. to earned a B.A. 72.68.99.12 (talk) 04:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done GoingBatty (talk) 04:47, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 June 2020
Jim Parsons voiced two characters in called Stan and Syd in Pete the Cat in 2018. He was in 2 episodes. 2.27.98.126 (talk) 07:26, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2021
In the personal life or when discussing his collage career please mention that he is a brother in the Pi Kappa Alpha fraternity. 2601:46:4400:ECF0:FD35:425A:A252:BE1 (talk) 02:17, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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