Talk:Jimmie Angel

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This entry states: "The creation of the artificial horizon is to some extent related to him since through his glass or bottle of beer he was able to determine the pitch and roll of the aircraft as he was flying in harsh meteorological conditions." Is this comment intended to imply that Jimmy Angel was one of the inventors of the artificial horizon? In reality, a glass of fluid makes a poor artificial horizon, as you may have noticed in a commercial airliner, which typically ensures during most turns that fluid in your glass stays level. Since our sense of balance comes from the fluid cannals in our inner ear, a pilot can easily get an aircraft into a spin when in cloud for the same reason. A gyroscope is needed to maintain an effective artificial horizon. JCWilson 22:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

The aircraft
I updated the caption under the picture and the text of the page because it implied two things which were untruth.
 * The El Rio Caroni plane was bought by Jimmy Angel after he had discovered the Angel Falls, while the caption implied that in that aircraft the discovery had been made.
 * The original aircraft is different in several details from the one on show in front of Ciudad Bolivar airport, fact which is confirmed by people who had seen the original aircraft standing atop the tepuy in the 60s as well as by comparing pictures taken by them of the original plane and those of the replica. The fact was also vaguely confirmed by soldiers actually employed in the lifting down of the vehicle.Balrog-kun (talk) 14:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The May 1989 National Geographic article states that Angel's discovery was in 1935, not 1933. ReamesSC (talk) 05:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The above might be related the use of "an" in the sentence "Today, an El Rio Caroní can be seen outside the airport terminal at Ciudad Bolívar." in the article at the moment, which seems to imply that El Rio Caroní refers to a type of aircraft, or maybe refers to there being an original El Rio Caroní and a replica.
 * The article Metal Aircraft Flamingo states that El Rio Caroní is the name of a particular aircraft of the type Metal Aircraft Flamingo. It also says that the aircraft in front of the airport is the original El Rio Caroní, and that there is a replica at the crash site.
 * This aircraft and it's story is also mentioned in the article Aeronautics Museum of Maracay which mentions a controversy about what to do with it. FrankSier (talk) 21:35, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Jimmy / Jimmie
I see far more references to his name being spelt Jimmy than Jimmie, even this article mixes the two. Surely there must be a definitive answer. MrMarmite (talk) 08:26, 21 December 2009 (UTC)


 * However, just found this. http://www.cahslunken.org/PDF_Docs/Why%20the%20Falls%20is%20Named.pdf which includes "As a boy, James Crawford Angel was called Crawford. As an adult, he wanted to be called “Jimmie.” He was constantly correcting the spelling of his name from Jimmy to Jimmie. In this article, his name has been changed to “Jimmie Angel” when it appeared in documents as “Jimmy” or “Angell.”" MrMarmite (talk) 08:31, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

1910
Obwohl der Venezolaner Ernesto Sánchez La Cruz den Wasserfall bereits im Jahre 1910 entdeckte, (Although the Venezuelan Ernesto Sánchez La Cruz discovered the waterfall in the year 1910 ...--129.69.140.138 (talk) 16:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)) wurde er erst 1933 nach der Wiederentdeckung durch den US-amerikanischen Buschpiloten Jimmie Angel bekannt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.69.140.138 (talk) 07:02, 4 August 2015 (UTC)