Talk:Jimmy Palao

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Hello,

I am disputing the deletion of James Jimmy Palao article for the following reasons:

It is Jazz history supported by the following books-

Pioneers of Jazz by Author Lawrence Gushee- Published by Oxford University Press (he does an extensive research on Jimmy Palao-who was the leader of the Original Creole Band and A Trumphet around the Corner by Author by Samuel Charters-Published by University Press in Mississippi.

And the Pictures of Jimmy Palao and Instruments that Jimmy Palao used are in the Chicago History Musuem.

He was a real person and the story is true. What more information is needed? (JAPALO (talk) 03:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC))

Recent copyediting
Hello, I'm new to Wikipedia and this is my first edit, so I'd appreciate feedback!

There are major citation omissions in this article that I did not attend to, but I have done some flagging where they are most needed. The article as a whole seems largely informed by the Pioneers of Jazz book mentioned above by User:JAPALO.

I did a bit of copyediting and reorganized a few sections, although it probably is a fruitless effort because what this article really appears to need is a thorough overhaul. Specifically, I shortened the intro, moving its discussion of the Original Creole Orchestra into its own section, where I aggregated it with the information under "Musical Career." I also moved the info about Palao's possessions from "Personal Life" to under "Death" because it flowed more naturally - thoughts?

I removed the following paragraphs (as well as some sentences here and there) that violate WP:NPOV. Perhaps they could be rewritten stringing together primary source quotes of Palao's peers making these claims instead - that would require citation.

"In 1908 Bill Johnson and Jimmie Palao, then leader of the Original Creole Orchestra, formed a firm partnership. The driving syncopated style of this New Orleans Jazz was beginning to transform the jazz scene. The Creole musicians alone had mastered the professional survival of jazz. This style of Jazz was infectious, the audience would roar for more and some sessions would last almost an hour longer. The band members as tired as they were continued to play, they loved the response they were getting. Jimmy Palao and members of this group all had grown up spiritually and musically, together in New Orleans. As though preparing for this moment for all of their lives, they had finally come together as a unit and Jimmy Palao formulated the Original Creole Orchestra. It took every one of them to make this happen, the formula was complete and the time was right, and everything was in place and nothing could stop it-Jazz was about to take hold."

"Jimmie Palao felt the need to express his jazz voice through his main instrument, the violin. He was an accomplished and expressive jazz violinist, earning a reputation as one of the finest violinists of his generation. He executed a powerful sound that eschewed vibrato, phrasings and nobody heard anything quite like it before. Jimmy Palao was multi talented. He played the violin, saxophone, the cornet, the mellophone and the banjo and he mastered them all."

The following claims both appear to cite the same Gushee source, but I was not able to find them in the cited book:

"According to jazz scholar Lawrence Gushee, the Original Creole Orchestra was the first African American band from New Orleans to perform jazz in over 75 cities in the USA and Canada."

"Bill Johnson remembered that Jimmie Palao called the music played by the Imperial Jazz Band "jazz." He also remembered how excited the audience would get when the band would play."

I flagged these for citation.

Finally, why are we citing an unpublished manuscript at the bottom?

Thanks!

Ultrauber (talk) 02:36, 9 May 2014 (UTC)