Talk:Joan of Savoy

Countess of Savoy
Strong objection to your undo of the edit to Joan of Savoy's history. It is not for you to determine whether she was Countess in "any shape or form" In fact the need for a formal renunciation and the resulting settlement indicates her suo jure rights. These are a matter of received history. I will undo your edit if you choose not to. This approaches vandalism !!!71.167.64.218 (talk) 23:24, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You are making a strong claim calling her countess of Savoy by your ridiculous reasoning Joanna of Aragon, Countess of Foix would have been a queen of Aragon or Joan II of Navarre should have been the Queen of France. Savoy operated under Salic laws like any Holy Roman Empire state; daughters of counts often contested their uncles or male relatives which doesn't make them rulers to the point they choose to renounce their claims. Beatrice of Portugal had better claim as Queen since Portugal allowed female succession but she is not recognized as queen of Portugal at all. -The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 23:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)